Jazz at Dubs Official Game Thread -- 8:30PM MT: NBATV, ROOT

[8]

Take Curry, Draymond, and Igoudala off the Warriors. Give KD diarrhea that only lets him play 16 minutes in the game. Does a Klay Thompson carry a Warriors team to victory against a fully healthy Jazz team in SLC?

Yes because a fully healthy jazz team doesn't exist

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Yes because a fully healthy jazz team doesn't exist

Bish, entertain my hypothetical.

 

[8]

Bish, entertain my hypothetical.

Yeah. Hayward would disappear in the clutch and the Jazz would lose in the end.

 

[The Midnight]

The difference between Hayward and the true top notch stars in the league is that that they know when they need to be "selfish" and when not to. On nights when all of your teammates can't make a shot, as the "star" of the team, you need to take matters into your own hands and "manufacture" points. Hayward is stronger than KD, he should have been taking it strong to the basket and gotten himself to the free throw line more often since his shot wasn't falling. Yeah, KD is long and might be a good defender, but as a competitior you don't back down like a *****....The only player out there showing any fight/pride was Gobert. He's the only guy on our team that shows the same fire/intensity every single night.

We can be like Ty Corbin and dust this off as "it's just one game", but this loss to Golden State is very disturbing and should open everyone's eyes as to how far we are from really being a true contender in the Western Conference. We're nowhere close...

Great post.

 

[akirac73]

Yeah. Hayward would disappear in the clutch and the Jazz would lose in the end.

This. Seen it so many times, nothing would lead me to think otherwise.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

This. Seen it so many times, nothing would lead me to think otherwise.

Did you not watch the Memphis game? You must not watch games when he literally performed well in the clutch the previous game.

 

[The Midnight]

Cy's the only one in this thread that's making the effort to provide a competent analysis of the game, you've just been responding with shallow borderline troll comments. The "stop hurting my feelings" card is just further derailing the discussion.

Cy has dismissed every single point everyone here has made as 'hot takes', not just mine. He only believes what he said is correct, and we all know nothing is that clear cut. Just because he writes more aggressively, more lengthy with more words and paragraphs doesn't mean his analysis is any more competent than the next person.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Cy has dismissed every single point everyone here has made as 'hot takes', not just mine. He only believes what he said is correct, and we all know nothing is that clear cut. Just because he writes more aggressively, more lengthy with more words and paragraphs doesn't mean his analysis is any more competent than the next person.

No, I'm pretty sure it's part of what makes my analysis more competent than yours. Not saying my analysis is perfect, or 100% correct, but I'm sure it's more well thought out than yours. I attempt to explain "why", you just seem to react to final results and narratives.

Have you made a point that wasnt just a broad general statement like "he needs to play better to prove he is worth the max"?

 

[MTS]

Cy has dismissed every single point everyone here has made as 'hot takes', not just mine. He only believes what he said is correct, and we all know nothing is that clear cut. Just because he writes more aggressively, more lengthy with more words and paragraphs doesn't mean his analysis is any more competent than the next person.

People are saying Hayward isn't clutch even though his clutch stats illustrate otherwise. People say the Jazz aren't even close based on a game against the best team in the world without 4 of our best 6 players. People are saying Hayward isn't a max player because he's had two bad games over the past month. You're criticizing Hayward for not playing well in "big games" even though we've seen him have amazing games against the likes of LeBron and Durant plenty before.

These are all objectively false claims that Cy is calling people out for, not just "differing opinions".

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

"Hayward isn't clutch, crumbles in big moments vs good teams"

Clutch minutes previous game Jazz @ Grizzlies:

3:51 Boris Diaw makes 26-foot three point jumper (Gordon Hayward assists) 69 - 66

2:56 Gordon Hayward makes 27-foot three point jumper (Shelvin Mack assists) 72 - 66

2:17 Shelvin Mack makes 24-foot three point jumper (Gordon Hayward assists) 75 - 68

So Hayward was directly responsible for 9 straight points in a tied game w/ under 5 minutes left. Of course this does nothing to stop certain fans from repeating a false narrative that Hayward only chokes in close games and isnt clutch.

 

[FalseFlagg K]

Great post.

Sorry dude but that really was a ridiculous historical & inaccurate post. 3 started missing, particularly Hill who would make an enormous difference. Not to mention Burks. We are really good are are only going to improve

 

[The Midnight]

People are saying Hayward isn't clutch even though his clutch stats illustrate otherwise. People say the Jazz aren't even close based on a game against the best team in the world without 4 of our best 6 players. People are saying Hayward isn't a max player because he's had two bad games over the past month. You're criticizing Hayward for not playing well in "big games" even though we've seen him have amazing games against the likes of LeBron and Durant plenty before.

These are all objectively false claims that Cy is calling people out for, not just "differing opinions".

Here's Hayward's 'clutch time' stats so far this season. I prefer something like this to Cy's ramblings + name calling.

https://www.nbaminer.com/clutch-time-stats/