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Jazz Big Men, Too Many?

How many big men do you think an ideal NBA roster should have?

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It depends on how flexible the rest of your roster is. The Jazz have Hayward(2,3), Burks(2,1), Hood(3,2), Exum(1,2), and Evans can play the 3. The Jazz can afford to use the extra spots for bigs because we don't need that much injury insurance at other positions.
 
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Better to have them and not need them than to need them and not have them.
 
Anyone think Evans can develop a corner 3?



Also, any stats on how Evans defends the 3 vs. the 4? Maybe that's where his minutes will have to come from this season
 
dalamon said:
Anyone think Evans can develop a corner 3?



Also, any stats on how Evans defends the 3 vs. the 4? Maybe that's where his minutes will have to come from this season
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Evans is my favorite player. Love to see his hustle. That being said, I don't know how he gets on the court as a 3. He has to beat out and take minutes from Hood and Novak. That's going to be tough since both those guys can shoot the lights out and Evans is still working on the outside shot. I hope the new coach can balance everything and keep people happy.
 
Evans needs more than just an outside shot to be a viable option. He needs to learn how to dribble, shoot when he's open without the team cheerleading, get into a defensive stance, aand get quicker laterally.

He never had a prayer of being a PF with his body type. Trying to develop him as one was a mistake. Dribbling, passing, shooting, lateral quickness, and increasing his hip fluidity so he could gaurd SF's should've been his goals from day one. Spending time with Malone, P3 for his jumping, and learning post moves has been a disservice and a waste of time.
 
Sexual Favors said:
Evans needs more than just an outside shot to be a viable option. He needs to learn how to dribble, shoot when he's open without the team cheerleading, get into a defensive stance, aand get quicker laterally.

He never had a prayer of being a PF with his body type. Trying to develop him as one was a mistake. Dribbling, passing, shooting, lateral quickness, and increasing his hip fluidity so he could gaurd SF's should've been his goals from day one. Spending time with Malone, P3 for his jumping, and learning post moves has been a disservice and a waste of time.
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you have proof he hasn't been working on these things? I see evidence that he has.

Evans has just been working on becoming a basketball player, plain and simple, rather than a track star. Spending time with a hall-of-famer is pretty much always a good idea.
 
[size/HUGE] fixed [/size];891725 said:
you have proof he hasn't been working on these things? I see evidence that he has.

Evans has just been working on becoming a basketball player, plain and simple, rather than a track star. Spending time with a hall-of-famer is pretty much always a good idea.
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I see evidence that he's worked on his shooting.

Where is the evidence with his dribbling? Do you ever see him dribble? Like ever?

Spending time with a hall of famer is always good? Loaded statement that disregards why the team never had Hayward spend time with Malone. They see Hayward as an SG/SF, and they were trying to make Evans into a PF because of the deficiencies in his basketball skills.

If Evans objective is becoming a basketball player and not a "track star" then why is there such an emphasis on P3 for him? I haven't seen him get better laterally or more fluid so he'd be able to gaurd wings. I've only seen this work show up in his jumping, which is something he has never needed help with.

Point is, he is a novelty/specialist (dunker with a jumper). Hopefully Quin and staff will stop the madness and give him attainable goals. It iw obvious he will never be big enough to gaurd PF's, or to post up. He should be learning how to be a basketball player as you say--but at the one and only position he has ever had a shot at. Small Forward.
 
Evans has a rare skill set that allows him to have an impact on a certain part of the playing surface. He's a P3 to maintain that while he tries to expand his skill set. You can continue over-thinking this if you want... or you can trust that Evans has always been a limited player who has, by all accounts visible to a fan such as yourself, worked hard to expand his game.

You see his poor dribble and assume he hasn't worked on it. I think you're stupid to take that assumption and run to sloppy conclusions/judgments (especially when you take sloppy judgments about other players and run away to these ridiculously celebratory conclusions).

In other words, calm the **** down, brauggh.
 
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Evans has a rare skill set that allows him to have an impact on a certain part of the playing surface. He's a P3 to maintain that while he tries to expand his skill set. You can continue over-thinking this if you want... or you can trust that Evans has always been a limited player who has, by all accounts visible to a fan such as yourself, worked hard to expand his game.

You see his poor dribble and assume he hasn't worked on it. I think you're stupid to take that assumption and run to sloppy conclusions/judgments (especially when you take sloppy judgments about other players and run away to these ridiculously celebratory conclusions).

In other words, calm the **** down, brauggh.
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I am calm, "brautgh." I also am a Evans fan. I have made many posts celebrating his talents and skills, and recognize his potential. However, there has been a publicized trajectory for his development (most noticeably last year) which was to be a PF. It is something I disagree with and can't wrap my head around.

I'm sure he has worked on his dribbling, but it has yet to manifest itself in games, which tells me hasn't worked on it enough, dribbling is a basic skill that anyone can become adequate at with enough practice. His offseason work that has been made public is his work with Malone, his p3 jumping, and his jump shot last year. I applaud the jump shot.

I just think the skills he learned last year, specificall how to be a PF, are not useful this year. I think it will be hard for him to get playing time unless some other parts of his game begin to manifest. That is sad. i like the kid.

Maybe don't be so sensitive?

Care to elaborate on my "sloppy judgments about other players " and my "ridiculously celebratory conclusions?" Those are some big accusations levied without example.
 
Sexual Favors said:
I am calm, "brautgh." I also am a Evans fan. I have made many posts celebrating his talents and skills, and recognize his potential. However, there has been a publicized trajectory for his development (most noticeably last year) which was to be a PF. It is something I disagree with and can't wrap my head around.

I'm sure he has worked on his dribbling, but it has yet to manifest itself in games, which tells me hasn't worked on it enough, dribbling is a basic skill that anyone can become adequate at with enough practice. His offseason work that has been made public is his work with Malone, his p3 jumping, and his jump shot last year. I applaud the jump shot.

I just think the skills he learned last year, specificall how to be a PF, are not useful this year. I think it will be hard for him to get playing time unless some other parts of his game begin to manifest. That is sad. i like the kid.

Maybe don't be so sensitive?
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I agree with you, he has not been concentrating on the right skillset. Either that or he just cannot improve where he needs to. I do think a SF with PF skills can create matchup problems though. If he can impove his dribbling and quickness, his improved post play will still have value. I just think we may have seen close to his max potential.
 
JAZZGASM said:
I agree with you, he has not been concentrating on the right skillset. Either that or he just cannot improve where he needs to. I do think a SF with PF skills can create matchup problems though. If he can impove his dribbling and quickness, his improved post play will still have value. I just think we may have seen close to his max potential.
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I agree that PF skills in an SF would be awesome, but wish the SF skills came first. As a second rounder, he came to the league with a lot of work needing to be done. Like you, I just hope he didn't learn the wrong skills first, and then plateau as this incomplete player whose only value was as a specialist for unique situations. I'm hoping this new staff will set new goals for him and that he can attain them.
 
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