Jazz Defensive rankings

[Stoked]

What he is saying is that they need to have a better offense. Opponent ppg can only tell you a little about how good a team is, and is not necessarily a reliable indicator of good defense.

I understood what he was trying to say. But what he said was a very bad way of saying it. Jazz have a healthy points in the paint game. Yes the Jazz need dramatic work on O.

As for opp ppg. Perhaps you're right which is why my OP has another 10 or so ranking most of which Jazz are top 10 and a half dozen top 5.

The Jazz bad O does mitigate their amazing D somewhat. But it's far from making it meaningless.

 

[franklin]

I understood what he was trying to say. But what he said was a very bad way of saying it. Jazz have a healthy points in the paint game. Yes the Jazz need dramatic work on O.

As for opp ppg. Perhaps you're right which is why my OP has another 10 or so ranking most of which Jazz are top 10 and a half dozen top 5.

The Jazz bad O does mitigate their amazing D somewhat. But it's far from making it meaningless.

Not really. They're trash outside of Derrick's improved performances. It's pretty non-existent outside him.

 

[MDAV28]

I agree PPG is useless without using pace or number of possesions. The best indicator is Defensive Rating (Defensive Efficiency as you have it). Jazz give up 87.1 points per 100 possessions which is absolutely insane considering the best Defensive Rating last season was the Warriors at 101.4. But also the 76ers offense last season was one of the worst of all time and they don't look much better even with Okafor. It definitely will be interesting to see if the Jazz can get a defensive rating under 100. Hasn't been done since those great defensive teams in Indy from 2012-2014

 

[framer]

It is impossible to play the relentless defense that the Jazz do and also have a top 5 offense. I know that Golden State supposedly has a great D and a stellar O, but when the Jazz are clicking on Defense, nothing like that has been played since the 90's and those blokes had different rules. The way you compliment suffocating defense is to run a bruising screen game with physical picks, which allows players to rest a bit on offense and demoralize the other team further. No other team wants to play that game with the Jazz other than maybe Memphis. Part of Golden State's success is that, like the Suns of old, they bait you into a run and shoot game and bad shots early in the clock. If you refuse to play that game with them, you have a better chance of success (Jazz and Grizzlies seemed to play GS tough.)

 

[GVC]

Meaningless since they take 25 seconds to jack up long two's every possession. Rest look interesting thus far.

Jazz are at 84.1 pts per 100 possessions allowed. Currently the Spurs are in second, more than 5 points per 100 possessions behind. Yes, the Jazz have played against 3 ****ty offenses, but the defense has been very good by any measure.

 

[MTS]

Having an elite defense gives the offense a huge margin for error. Our offense, from the all-star break last year onwards, has been slightly above league average.

"Meaningless" isn't the word I'd use to sum that up, but to each his own.

 

[fgcamel]

Not really. They're trash outside of Derrick's improved performances. It's pretty non-existent outside him.

They're 6th in the league, and maybe that does have a lot to do with Favors improved performances, but so what? He is part of the team isn't he? His points do go to the jazz right?

 

[MDAV28]

Not really. They're trash outside of Derrick's improved performances. It's pretty non-existent outside him.

If you pay attention most of the NBA offenses look bad. It's early in the season.

 

[MDAV28]

Jazz are at 84.1 pts per 100 possessions allowed. Currently the Spurs are in second, more than 5 points per 100 possessions behind. Yes, the Jazz have played against 3 ****ty offenses, but the defense has been very good by any measure.

87.1

 

[MDAV28]

I can't imagine the meltdown if everyone here were Rockets fans..

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

I think I saw Cy state in a different thread that Hayward has taken the next step defensively. Can others confirm? I only saw the game against Detroit.

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I will confirm this. You should've seen him stick it to PG. PG didn't do much when Hayward was guarding him. It was like they were joined at the hip. There was even one moment where PG got really frustrated with how Hayward defended him.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

Hell I can't remember him letting anyone drive or get to the rim on him.