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LoPo said:
You think Boston would trade Hayward, Horford or Kyrie for only 1 guaranteed year of Kawhi?

I don't.

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I do. Kyrie might be one year as well. Hayward isnt any where near the player Leonard is and they have Brown and Tatum that can fill his role just as well or better. Horford is a good player but is declining. Plus Horford has next season (1 year) and then a player option after that. Kawhi is the type of player that could get them a championship. Its more about what the Spurs will take back then what Boston will give up. If I was Boston I would trade Kyrie in the blink of an eye for Leonard. Then start Rozier and retain Smart if possible.
 
Ron Mexico said:
I do. Kyrie might be one year as well. Hayward isnt any where near the player Leonard is and they have Brown and Tatum that can fill his role just as well or better. Horford is a good player but is declining. Plus Horford has next season (1 year) and then a player option after that. Kawhi is the type of player that could get them a championship. Its more about what the Spurs will take back then what Boston will give up. If I was Boston I would trade Kyrie in the blink of an eye for Leonard. Then start Rozier and retain Smart if possible.
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I agree with a bunch of what you are saying. I personally feel that Boston would not trade Hayward, Kyrie or Horford.

And to your other points, I don't think San Antonio wants Kyrie, Hayward or Horford. Kyrie can leave after a year, Hayward is not worth his contract and Horford is too overpaid/old.

Financially, this trade is really difficult.
 
LoPo said:
I agree with a bunch of what you are saying. I personally feel that Boston would not trade Hayward, Kyrie or Horford.

And to your other points, I don't think San Antonio wants Kyrie, Hayward or Horford. Kyrie can leave after a year, Hayward is not worth his contract and Horford is too overpaid/old.

Financially, this trade is really difficult.
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I agree that Spurs might not want those guys. I think they would take Hayward. Boston is not loyal to players. Ainge will trade anyone if he thinks it makes his team better. You dont need a team that has Leonard, Brown, Tatum and Hayward. One of those guys has to go and the easiest one is Hayward. He is paid a lot and not as good as Leonard. The young guys have rookie contracts as well. But Spurs might like Kyrie as well, I have no idea how they feel about him. Especially if they got Kyrie and Brown. Plus rumors have said the Spurs like a lot of players and assets from Boston.

There is also the fact that a 3rd team will get involved. That is fairly common in big trades. Maybe Spurs go into more of a rebuild. They could take picks and a young player from Boston and Kyrie gets moved to a team that also sends a young player and/or picks to Spurs. A 3rd team makes it much easier to complete this trade.

I do think Lakers will trade for him though. They also have decent assets.
 
So when Dallas does the DJ deal Favs is basically sunk. I'd offer him the following options:

1 year 10M
2/30 with team option on second year or only 1M guaranteed
3/36 with the deal as front loaded as possible. So 13,12,11.

If it is a straight one year deal I would give less just because we don't get much upside. My guess is he'd take option 2... makes 16M if he gets cut or 30 for a couple years.

His FA timing could not be worse. Capela, DMC, and DJ (apparently) all ahead of him on the FA list. One team really looking at a big. His only option may be like 4/38 with a MLE offer.

Niko signed a placeholder deal and was dealt for a 1st... these deals are assets. If not he's a good player and there is a lot of value in those deals. Letting him walk for nothing wouldn't be wise.

S&T options are pretty limited, but I'd be happy to go that route too.
 
Jazz4ever said:
LA probably wants to give them Ball as a centerpiece. SA likely wants Ingram or Kuzma
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I'm guessing it ends up being Kuzma, Ingram, Deng and their pick next year. It's a lot, but you are getting Kawhi and LBJ and maybe Paul George.
 
LoPo said:
You think Boston would trade Hayward, Horford or Kyrie for only 1 guaranteed year of Kawhi?

I don't.

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I said they have everything needed to make a trade with the spurs. That is true.

Only danny ainge knows what they would actually be willing to give up.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
So when Dallas does the DJ deal Favs is basically sunk. I'd offer him the following options:

1 year 10M
2/30 with team option on second year or only 1M guaranteed
3/36 with the deal as front loaded as possible. So 13,12,11.

If it is a straight one year deal I would give less just because we don't get much upside. My guess is he'd take option 2... makes 16M if he gets cut or 30 for a couple years.

His FA timing could not be worse. Capela, DMC, and DJ (apparently) all ahead of him on the FA list. One team really looking at a big. His only option may be like 4/38 with a MLE offer.

Niko signed a placeholder deal and was dealt for a 1st... these deals are assets. If not he's a good player and there is a lot of value in those deals. Letting him walk for nothing wouldn't be wise.

S&T options are pretty limited, but I'd be happy to go that route too.
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I agree with those contract ideas. I would even for 4 years with one more reduced since it would be very tradeable. Maybe start at 12 and in the fourth year it is 9.

For Favors it isnt even as much the other players that are FAs it more about the fact he had some injury issues and has a reduced limited role with the Jazz. If he had been more healthy the last couple years and a bigger role he would be looking for a good pay day this year. I like Capela but Favors is a more complete player when healthy and only 3 years older. Plus Capela is in probably the best spot for him possible to look good.
 
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