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Jazz Free Agency Summer of 2018

LoPo said:
I agree 100%. If our whole offseason is keep everybody and draft Grayson Allen, I think this is a disappointing offseason after a season with so much promise.

Unfortunately, I could see a scenario where we just stick with what we have. My biggest fear is that we give Favors too much considering everything you said. If we give him $10+ for 3 or more years, we are going to be regretting it very, very soon.
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That's where the genius is of signing Favors to 1 year deal for $18-$20 million. Assuming we aren't getting Harris this summer, I think it makes a lot of sense.
 
Roy_McAvoy said:
That's where the genius is of signing Favors to 1 year deal for $18-$20 million. Assuming we aren't getting Harris this summer, I think it makes a lot of sense.
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If we wanted to bring back everybody (Thabo, Jerekbo, Udoh and Exum), then we don't have much if any money anyway. Thabo ($5.5), Jerekbo ($4.2), Udoh ($3.4) and Exum ($8 let's say) take up all of our cap space. Since we have Favors' rights, we can give him whatever deal we want. Might as well give Favors a big one year deal if we are just going to continue from last year plus Grayson.
 
Favors and Exum are ours! Good.

Lets come back with a healthy squad next year. Yes, it might seem like a let down but look at it this way.

-Our "rookie" is "old" he maybe/should be able to contribute right away.
-Adding Exum is like adding a new player.
-Same for Thabo. He was out so much last year we didnt have him for the playoff run.
-Rubio was so good once he got into a groove with us. If he stays relatively healthy, especially in the playoffs who knows who far we can go.

Our team looked amazing at times during the second half. Now we add in Grayson who is a balls to the wall all out guy, healthy Exum, healthy Thabo. Chemistry is there. I LIKE our chances to go farther.
 
so do I, DL built in DM,Gobert and now Grayson a DO IT in UTAH team players who wants to play here and that is fantastic.
We hear that FA don't want to play in Utah for years. I like our chances too.
 
I don’t think Favors comes back. If he does, it’s on a 1 year deal. Love Favs, but I think he’s done here.

I would almost guarantee Exum is back. He plays elite perimeter defense, and him, Rubio, Mitchell and Allen makes a really nice backcourt. Exum
Can guard 1-3 very effectively, he’s young, and can still grow more. They’re not letting him walk.

Can’t imagine Jerebko is back.

I think if Favs leaves, we’ll sign Bjelly. Don’t know a thing about him, but it seems like something we’d do. The Jazz actually telegraph players they like really obviously.

Udoh comes back bc he’s tremendous on defense and a great locker room guy. Great community guy too.

Not sure about Thabo. I think he comes back and plays some 3/4. Just depends on his recovery. Another guy who’s a good teammate and really good on defense. A bargain rate Ariza.

With an off-season like that, we’re a 50-55 win team that’s set up for room coming into a big free agency period the next year. I think that sounds great to me.
 
Bottom line:

We’re not championship contenders, but we’re close, and that’s fine with me. It’s a fun team to watch with a bunch of great guys that play good basketball. That’s really all I want in a team tbh.
 
I'm conflicted. Do we think we are truly contenders this year staying as is and just adding Grayson? If so, stick it out one more year. I'm an optimist, but I don't believe we can beat Golden State or some others with what we currently have. And more importantly, I don't feel that Thabo, Jerekbo, Neto, Udoh and even Favors are going to be part of the long term solution either. If you honestly feel that we can beat Golden State or others as constructed, disregard the following.

Based off of the numbers I posted before about the lack of teams with space, I think we should get aggressive. We should be opportunistic. I honestly don't think we need Thabo, Udoh, Jerkebo, Neto or Stockton to contend next year. If we let those guys go, we can sign similar replacements after we use the rest of our cap elsewhere. I love how they fit in the locker room, but we only need Jerekbo and Thabo for emergencies. And if I'm not mistaken, if we decline their options, we can re-sign them later right.

Aggressive Financial Approach:
- Let Jerekbo, Udoh, Thabo, Neto and Stockton go.
- Sign Exum to a deal making around $8 million. It might not even take that much.
- Let Favors go elsewhere.
= $11+ million in cap space

Options with $11 Million of Cap Space:
- Big Trade: If you add Burks ($11.5) and maybe even Bradley ($1.5) to the $11 million in space, we have some very big trade opportunities.
- Small Trade: We could take a contract that another team is trying to dump and pick up an asset in the process. Jarred Bayless, Dellavedova, etc.
- Sign a Free Agent: if only 7 teams can spend more than the MLE ($8.6) on any player, we could be buyers. Let's use Julius Randle as an example. In a usual year, Randle would be a $12-18 million a year type player. This year, we could offer him $11 and that might be the best he can get. Who knows, maybe Jabari Parker accepts an $11 million deal with us and Milwaukee decides to decline the option because they are so broke.

After we use our space on a free agent or a trade, we then sign players as we get over the cap. We could sign a guy like Jerami Grant, Hezonja, Mbah a Moute, Jerekbo, Ilyasova, Belinelli, Thabo, Beasley, etc. using the MLE or BAE.

We should pursue a big trade. Even if we take a contract that goes into 2019, make a trade. We are in a very unique position to pick up asset. Only Atlanta and maybe the Bulls are in a position to pick up a great asset by taking salary.
 
LoPo said:
I'm conflicted. Do we think we are truly contenders this year staying as is and just adding Grayson? If so, stick it out one more year. I'm an optimist, but I don't believe we can beat Golden State or some others with what we currently have. And more importantly, I don't feel that Thabo, Jerekbo, Neto, Udoh and even Favors are going to be part of the long term solution either. If you honestly feel that we can beat Golden State or others as constructed, disregard the following.

Based off of the numbers I posted before about the lack of teams with space, I think we should get aggressive. We should be opportunistic. I honestly don't think we need Thabo, Udoh, Jerkebo, Neto or Stockton to contend next year. If we let those guys go, we can sign similar replacements after we use the rest of our cap elsewhere. I love how they fit in the locker room, but we only need Jerekbo and Thabo for emergencies. And if I'm not mistaken, if we decline their options, we can re-sign them later right.

Aggressive Financial Approach:
- Let Jerekbo, Udoh, Thabo, Neto and Stockton go.
- Sign Exum to a deal making around $8 million. It might not even take that much.
- Let Favors go elsewhere.
= $11+ million in cap space

Options with $11 Million of Cap Space:
- Big Trade: If you add Burks ($11.5) and maybe even Bradley ($1.5) to the $11 million in space, we have some very big trade opportunities.
- Small Trade: We could take a contract that another team is trying to dump and pick up an asset in the process. Jarred Bayless, Dellavedova, etc.
- Sign a Free Agent: if only 7 teams can spend more than the MLE ($8.6) on any player, we could be buyers. Let's use Julius Randle as an example. In a usual year, Randle would be a $12-18 million a year type player. This year, we could offer him $11 and that might be the best he can get. Who knows, maybe Jabari Parker accepts an $11 million deal with us and Milwaukee decides to decline the option because they are so broke.

After we use our space on a free agent or a trade, we then sign players as we get over the cap. We could sign a guy like Jerami Grant, Hezonja, Mbah a Moute, Jerekbo, Ilyasova, Belinelli, Thabo, Beasley, etc. using the MLE or BAE.

We should pursue a big trade. Even if we take a contract that goes into 2019, make a trade. We are in a very unique position to pick up asset. Only Atlanta and maybe the Bulls are in a position to pick up a great asset by taking salary.
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You don't get an MLE and a BAE if you operate under the cap... either/or scenario. We will operate over the cap. We are not a contender per se. We likely look very similar to what we do now... may make trades in season as we will have more options open to us (trading exum, favors, etc.) as well as other teams may suck and guys we really like may be available at the deadline... I could see Harris, Aaron Gordon, Otto Porter all being available for much cheaper than they are now.
 
Unless we add LeBron James, we aren’t going to beat Golden State in a series.

Wait until their group breaks up.

Even if we added Paul George we wouldn’t beat them. They’re just too good.
 
JustTheTip said:
Unless we add LeBron James, we aren’t going to beat Golden State in a series.

Wait until their group breaks up.

Even if we added Paul George we wouldn’t beat them. They’re just too good.
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I think adding a guy like PG puts us an ankle sprain away, but the gymnastics required to get there and the fact that it's a long shot is not a strategy you can call plan A. I think you try and get a meeting and take a moonshot, but this summer we should be bargain shoppers... operate over the cap and keep our exceptions for the end of FA. Either get a guy on a one year make good deal that missed the big money or sign someone to a value multi year deal.

We need to get Thabo to push his guarantee date back to 7/9... bring all those guys back and sign one more dude. We'd have some really flexible salary to make trades work (good variety of contracts). Look at BIG trades at the deadline... again Exum may have more value, Favs might too, and some teams will disappoint and guys will pop up on the market.

Gonna be a boring offseason... and I'm kinda cool with it... lay some more groundwork.
 
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