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Jazz Free Agency Summer of 2018

mellow said:
Portland would be smart to flush and tank-over again. Everyone else in the west is trying to win, and with the new lottery system Portland having a few okay players won't hurt their lottery chances as much.

Tanking-over also gives them time to get out from under the dreadful contracts of McCullom, Turner and Leonard.
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Dreadful contracts.... McCollum...?
 
MDAV28 said:
The question at this point is if that is worth it to "settle" for Harris because you need super duper stars. That team and core would be locked in. We'd need huge jumps internally.

Jazz may position themselves to just guarantee Favors if they couldn't get the star and retry next season. We have 19 and 20 with Mitch and O'Neale on insanely cheap deals to try and sign a star.
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True story... we kind of need to find the super duper stars in the draft imo... I just don't see Klay, KD or someone like that jumping ship. You have to get lucky to win it all. I do wonder if a team that is a defensive juggernaut and is solid at a lot of positions but only elite at a couple can get it done... but you kind of have to take it one step at a time. GS had a ton of luck getting where they are... and that luck can reverse.
 
mellow said:
Portland would be smart to flush and tank-over again. Everyone else in the west is trying to win, and with the new lottery system Portland having a few okay players won't hurt their lottery chances as much.

Tanking-over also gives them time to get out from under the dreadful contracts of McCullom, Turner and Leonard.
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Utah is a surprisingly good trade partner for PDX. We have contracts to match, talent, can trade from a strength to address a weakness, tons of expiring deals, and all our own picks. Just a matter of knowing what they want. But if package around Ball and a 1st is enough to do that, you bet your sweet buns we should be all over that. Then again, this is per SAS, so take it for what you will.
 
Jingled said:
We keep hearing that the Millers would be willing to go into the luxury tax, maybe next summer is time to put their money where their mouth is. I think going into the tax for a season to keep Rubio and sign a big free agent would be more than worth it.
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It isn't about tax... its about space and cba mechanics.
 
TheStormofWar said:
Utah is a surprisingly good trade partner for PDX. We have contracts to match, talent, can trade from a strength to address a weakness, tons of expiring deals, and all our own picks. Just a matter of knowing what they want. But if package around Ball and a 1st is enough to do that, you bet your sweet buns we should be all over that. Then again, this is per SAS, so take it for what you will.
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SAS is trustworthy... he is pretty connected with rumors... it's all the other gas bagging he does that is lol worthy.
 
Jingled said:
We keep hearing that the Millers would be willing to go into the luxury tax, maybe next summer is time to put their money where their mouth is. I think going into the tax for a season to keep Rubio and sign a big free agent would be more than worth it.
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I agree with you Ron especially since it's my own money you're spending!
 
MDAV28 said:
Nah 15 million is like just a run of the mill starter. McCollum is an All-Star caliber guard.
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He's also a square peg in a round hole in Porty... there may be more to unlock with him.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
True story... we kind of need to find the super duper stars in the draft imo... I just don't see Klay, KD or someone like that jumping ship. You have to get lucky to win it all. I do wonder if a team that is a defensive juggernaut and is solid at a lot of positions but only elite at a couple can get it done... but you kind of have to take it one step at a time. GS had a ton of luck getting where they are... and that luck can reverse.
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I don't think it's completely out of the question. It's kind of a Spurs-esque route, although they obviously had stars and supported by one of the top players ever in Duncan, a defensive identifying team with insane depth can have a shot and could get lucky if the more "talented" teams run into some injury concerns.

I think the Jazz first choice is obviously to sign a star, and will leave flexibility for that option. But if our window on Mitchell's rookie deal closes, recalibrating and building/upgrading a deep roster like they have now is a viable option.
 
MDAV28 said:
I don't think it's completely out of the question. It's kind of a Spurs-esque route, although they obviously had stars and supported by one of the top players ever in Duncan, a defensive identifying team with insane depth can have a shot and could get lucky if the more "talented" teams run into some injury concerns.

I think the Jazz first choice is obviously to sign a star, and will leave flexibility for that option. But if our window on Mitchell's rookie deal closes, recalibrating and building/upgrading a deep roster like they have now is a viable option.
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Agreed, Mitchell getting maxed out is a given, assuming everything holds. Utah already is Spurs-like in their style, so do what works. But if Utah can get a superstar without giving up a metric ton of things, Utah does that. The window is until Mitchell gets the max or we trade Gobert. Obviously, we genuinely are NOT doing the latter.
 
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