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Jazz need to go get Grant Williams

Xthren said:
He is what the Jazz need coming in off the bench. He is pretty much a deep bench guy in Boston. Hard nosed defender. Decent 3 point shooter. HE IS BETTER THAN NIANG.

Not sure what it would take but make it happen.

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A trade for one as he’s under contract for three more years.

And we have no assets that they’d want unless he’s coupled in a bigger deal.
 
I'm also a big fan of Grant Williams. The only way we get him is if Boston really wants Bojan, Conley or Clarkson. Williams would have to be in a package with Marcus Smart.

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Williams is a much worse shooter, a worse rebounder (how in the literal hell?), has 1/2th the feel, and is marginally better at defense (at best).

He has more defensive potential than Niang, sure, but that hasnt showed up yet.
 
I don't think I would consider Grant Williams in competition with Niang.

I would get Grant Williams in addition to a guy like Niang. The play two different roles. Grant Williams is that bruiser, scrapper you bring off the bench who might be able to play a little small ball center. Niang is a floor spacing SF/PF.
 
LoPo said:
I don't think I would consider Grant Williams in competition with Niang.

I would get Grant Williams in addition to a guy like Niang. The play two different roles. Grant Williams is that bruiser, scrapper you bring off the bench who might be able to play a little small ball center. Niang is a floor spacing SF/PF.
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Good lord, not anyone can play small ball center. We are talking about a guy who is actually worse than Niang at rebounding (look at the advanced stats). He's not who he was in college.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Good lord, not anyone can play small ball center. We are talking about a guy who is actually worse than Niang at rebounding (look at the advanced stats). He's not who he was in college.
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I agree. Not anybody can play small ball center.

Grant Williams can be an asset off the bench as a different type of big man than we currently have. He's an active player who tries really hard defensively. Sure, Niang might have some advanced stat metric for a slight rebounding advantage, but I would be getting Grant Williams as an additional defensive presence.

He reminds me a lot of Chuck Hayes who had a 10+ year career as a hustle big man who was effective at disrupting the other team. It just helps that Williams is a 32% 3pt shooter whereas Hayes never made a 3 in his career.

This team needs heart. We need a bulldog. Williams would provide that.
 
I like Grant Williams as an enforcer and defender. But don't bring niang into this.

Niang just lost all sorts of $$$ by sucking in the playoffs. He should be much cheaper now to retain. I think he was just in his own head because he can shoot it.
 
LoPo said:
I agree. Not anybody can play small ball center.

Grant Williams can be an asset off the bench as a different type of big man than we currently have. He's an active player who tries really hard defensively. Sure, Niang might have some advanced stat metric for a slight rebounding advantage, but I would be getting Grant Williams as an additional defensive presence.

He reminds me a lot of Chuck Hayes who had a 10+ year career as a hustle big man who was effective at disrupting the other team. It just helps that Williams is a 32% 3pt shooter whereas Hayes never made a 3 in his career.

This team needs heart. We need a bulldog. Williams would provide that.
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Williams isnt a different look though. He plays very similarly to Niang. If you want a different look, go get someone who is an actual athlete up and down athlete, not a bulky tweener who cant rebound.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Williams is a much worse shooter, a worse rebounder (how in the literal hell?), has 1/2th the feel, and is marginally better at defense (at best).

He has more defensive potential than Niang, sure, but that hasnt showed up yet.
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He’s a super meh option. I am pretty sure I would hate watching him too.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Williams isnt a different look though. He plays very similarly to Niang. If you want a different look, go get someone who is an actual athlete up and down athlete, not a bulky tweener who cant rebound.
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I don't care what the look is. I care about the attitude, effort and athleticism. I feel that Grant has that over a guy like Niang. But he's not there to replace Niang, he's there to replace our evident lack of youth, athleticism, and grit.

We are talking about a #8 or #9 roster spot guy. He would definitely help our rotation especially if he replaces some Favors minutes.
 
LoPo said:
I'm also a big fan of Grant Williams. The only way we get him is if Boston really wants Bojan, Conley or Clarkson. Williams would have to be in a package with Marcus Smart.

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Saint Cy of JFC said:
Williams is a much worse shooter, a worse rebounder (how in the literal hell?), has 1/2th the feel, and is marginally better at defense (at best).

He has more defensive potential than Niang, sure, but that hasnt showed up yet.
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Halfeth? Are we doing Shakespeare now on this board?
 
LoPo said:
I don't care what the look is. I care about the attitude, effort and athleticism. I feel that Grant has that over a guy like Niang. But he's not there to replace Niang, he's there to replace our evident lack of youth, athleticism, and grit.

We are talking about a #8 or #9 roster spot guy. He would definitely help our rotation especially if he replaces some Favors minutes.
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How on Earth is Utah better with Williams playing over Favors?

The Favors disrespect has gotten out of hand as well. He wasnt bad last year. He was actually very good in his role. He's just overpaid. Replacing him with Williams in no way makes Utah better.
 
I dont know where you all get your stats but Williams is 37% 3 point shooter on 2 attempts per game. His free throw shooting is a little bit of a concern.

His rebounding numbers aren't great but when you watch videos he spends a lot of time around the 3 point line. Hard to get rebounds out there. His rebounding numbers are almost equal to Niang.



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