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LoPo said:
Knicks considering trading #19 and/or #21 for Terrence Ross.

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Knicks Trying To Trade For Terrence Ross

Oh?
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Wouldn't Bojan or Clarkson be even better?
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If the rumors of Knicks and Pacers are remotely true… there is an opportunity to flip Bojan to Indiana for 13 and stuff… then turn around and get 19/21 for 13 while dumping favors. Carlisle hates rookies and they are said to want established players for that pick. The hot rumor is Eric Gordon (went to IU) and 23/24 for 13 and contracts… I would think Bogey and 30 is better but whatevs.
 
Ineptimusprime said:
That seems pricier than normal for a pick that low, no?
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Saint Cy of JFC said:
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I actually thought this would start happening. The trick is you want to sign the guy to a 900k contract and don’t care as much about who the player is but about the cap ramifications. Sam Merrill was a good example of this… bucks needed to stay away from the apron/tax so wanted someone to add with a late 50s pick.

It’s yet another reason the Matt Thomas deal was dumb AF.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I actually thought this would start happening. The trick is you want to sign the guy to a 900k contract and don’t care as much about who the player is but about the cap ramifications. Sam Merrill was a good example of this… bucks needed to stay away from the apron/tax so wanted someone to add with a late 50s pick.

It’s yet another reason the Matt Thomas deal was dumb AF.
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I really dont get the extreme hate for the Matt Thomas deal. The guy has accomplished more in the NBA than most players picked in the range of the pick he was traded for. It was worth getting a look at a potential elite motion shooter who has had some NBA success.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I really dont get the extreme hate for the Matt Thomas deal. The guy has accomplished more in the NBA than most players picked in the range of the pick he was traded for. It was worth getting a look at a potential elite motion shooter who has had some NBA success.
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Well that “look” cost them around 3-4M to date… for that amount of dough they could take a “look” at my ******* and it’d be a better investment.

It also costs them a chance to take a “look” at someone with actual potential to help us at 47. Like maybe Wieskamp is there… he’s a shooter but actually has size and athleticism to survive.

I don’t know how anyone can look at that move and be like “great work… nailed it”. I also don’t know who can look at Tony Bradley and see a poor mans Lamarcus Aldridge either… so I guess we just see things differently sometimes.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Well that “look” cost them around 3-4M to date… for that amount of dough they could take a “look” at my ******* and it’d be a better investment.

It also costs them a chance to take a “look” at someone with actual potential to help us at 47. Like maybe Wieskamp is there… he’s a shooter but actually has size and athleticism to survive.

I don’t know how anyone can look at that move and be like “great work… nailed it”. I also don’t know who can look at Tony Bradley and see a poor mans Lamarcus Aldridge either… so I guess we just see things differently sometimes.
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Thomas can survive in the NBA. It all comes down to refining his tools in the offense. He still has potential and I dont get the desire to give up on him so fast. Niang was far worse in his mid-season debut after being acquired by Utah, but he learned to how to succeed despite limitations because he's a high level shooter. But again, extreme cynicism is what's cool I guess.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Thomas can survive in the NBA. It all comes down to refining his tools in the offense. He still has potential and I dont get the desire to give up on him so fast. Niang was far worse in his mid-season debut after being acquired by Utah, but he learned to how to succeed despite limitations because he's a high level shooter. But again, extreme cynicism is what's cool I guess.
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Please don't confuse logic and "extreme cynicism". Is that the new Cy phrase/word of the day... Don't be daft. Here is a new one for you to look up... "Toxic Positivity".

When I see a spade I call it a spade.

Niang didn't cost a pick to bring in iirc. Niang had also played less than 100 nba minutes when we brought him in... he was also a over 2 years younger. Matt has had like 700 NBA minutes before coming over. He's much more established than Niang was. He was also still cutting weight and everyone knows that fat is potential in disguise. I doubt Thomas magically learns how to dribble or gets faster or figures out how to be bigger or how to be better at defense or figures out how to get his shot off faster so that guys can't just close hard to him and take away his only nba skill.

If he had come for free then great... give him a try. For a second and taking up a roster spot we needed for a real NBA player... nah.
 
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