Jazz Offseason Plan

[Bodhi]

It’s not just chip or failure imo. It’s give yourself the best chance at a chip or failure. In athletics it’s like playing your best game and getting beat… that isn’t necessarily failure imo. Showing up and being unprepared or not giving your best effort is failure . We had a lot of chances to improve. We didn’t make good moves around the edges this year… there were easy moves to make… we essentially hit a few step back threes and blew a couple layups.

For those overly positive on the job the front office did… the head honcho got the axe. Not that owners always get it right but Ryan doesn’t share your same outlook. Many of the front office members were apparently divided in some of the decisions we did. Not many number 1 seeds fire their GM. We can be highly critical of the front office moves this last year even though the got some things right in the past… you can say that M Night Shamyalan is a ****** film maker… even though Sixth Sense is awesome. That’s the movie that gets him the ability to make more movies… but keep ****ing up and eventually we take away the keys.

DL royally screwed up the stuff around the edges last offseason. Sorry if that isn’t pie in the sky positive… I see how awesome we were and know we could have been so much better too. It’s been a pattern that we are routinely lacking something we should already have and address it a season too late.

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All of this

 

[Elizah Huge]

We gave up two first rounders and our most recent 1st Grayson. And Crowder who has been to two straight finals since. Wouldn't call that crumbs.

The Bucks gave up more, but they have gotten more. Conley has missed more elimination series games (7) than he has played in (6). Jrue Holiday has played in more playoff games this postseason than Conley has the last two combined.

Yeah they also traded Bledsoe and Hill with two extra first round pick swaps. Imagine if we did that.

Conley wouldn’t have missed any games if they let Donovan play Game 1 which we then sweep and him pulling his hammy doesn’t happen in Game 5 because there is no Game 5. Like we are seriously going to rag on a guy for getting injured? Look at Chris Paul for an example. Guess we shouldn’t want him because he always gets injured.

 

[whatthe]

Our team couldn't get Rudy going on offense. That's what happened in the playoffs. If you hurt Rudy on defense then we should have made them pay on offense.

 

[oneye]

“Would you flip Donovan for Dame right now”
Zach Harper: another Yes.

Seems like the answer from those around the league is a resounding YES you do that deal if it’s available.

 

[LoPo]

Yeah they also traded Bledsoe and Hill with two extra first round pick swaps. Imagine if we did that.

Conley wouldn’t have missed any games if they let Donovan play Game 1 which we then sweep and him pulling his hammy doesn’t happen in Game 5 because there is no Game 5. Like we are seriously going to rag on a guy for getting injured? Look at Chris Paul for an example. Guess we shouldn’t want him because he always gets injured.

I didn't like the trade from the start because Conley doesn't compliment Don in playoff situations.

I only bring up the injury information because it's relevant. If you don't play, you can't help the team. And there is already speculation that Conley might have could have gone and that led to team frustration and maybe Don frustration. But we'll never know.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

“Would you flip Donovan for Dame right now”
Zach Harper: another Yes.

Seems like the answer from those around the league is a resounding YES you do that deal if it’s available.

I don't think they are giving the question all that much thought though. You want to swap player for player... great... but its more than just a jersey swap.

 

[oneye]

I agree that it would be a step back for the regular season. Of course it will be.

But what happens to Rudy's production if Conley leaves without us getting anything back? I believe that Rudy's offensive contribution will fall considerably without a true PG. And I'm a Don homer, but I acknowledge that he isn't a prototypical PG. He'll get better, but he's not going to bring out the best in Rudy.

And we talk about the next couple years, but what about Rudy's really bad extension years when he alone is taking up 30%+ of our cap number and he's aging and even more of a liability?

I think Don is more optimistic about taking a small step back now but have the franchise built around him with a brighter future than worrying about being a late playoff seed.

You’re wrong. Donovan is invested in HIM winning a championship not just the Jazz, he won’t accept taking a step back, he’ll ask for a trade next offseason.

 

[LoPo]

You’re wrong. Donovan is invested in HIM winning a championship not just the Jazz, he won’t accept taking a step back, he’ll ask for a trade next offseason.

You

Don't

Know

 

[oneye]

Again the Donovan for Lillard trade makes zero sense for us unless Donovan wanted out and we had a sign-and-trade ready with Conley for a really nice piece. Otherwise Conley leaving and swapping Donovan for Lillard makes us considerably worse.

This is absolute and pure DELUSION

 

[oneye]

That’s not even the debate have you been reading at all? It’s Donovan vs Booker.

Losing Conley and trading Donovan for Lillard makes us worse. That is a guarantee.

Again, that trade would happen AFTER you re-signed Mike.

 

[Elizah Huge]

This is absolute and pure DELUSION

Swapping Conley and Mitchell for Lillard doesn’t make us worse?

 

[oneye]

You

Don't

Know

Judging by literally everything every local reporter says, the Jazz are on the clock, and taking a step back isn’t an option BECAUSE they are on the clock with Donovan and anything less than being a contender is not an option. This is widely reported by literally every local reporter.