Jazz Offseason Plan

[LoPo]

Conley is detrimental to our growth and success he was a terrible waste of money and resources, pretty much fd up our future

If he just leaves in free agency without us getting anything back in return, I agree with this 100%.

The Conley move would be like spending a bunch of money to rent a luxury SUV to drive from Atlanta to Utah but it breaks down a few times along the way and only gets you as far as Tulsa. Sure the ride was nice a comfortable for a bit and seemed promising, but.....

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

We've talked a lot about Kuzma, but what do people think about Talen-Horton Tucker?

I think he’s over rated. Super hyped laker. He’s fine. I heard he was the sticking point in the Lowry to the Lakers trade which is just wild. If he figures out how to be a good shooter he’s got something. The list of guys that didn’t do that is pretty long. I’d rather get guys like Williams, Roby with the thunder without the “laker” tax.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Good thoughts.

I wish FA were before the draft. Just wish we knew what Conley was thinking/doing.

Two weeks until **** starts getting real.

It’s wild that they haven’t figured it out yet. It would also cause some trade activity pre-free agency and draft that would get some attention… when the league year turns some trade exceptions become worthless and cap space for the prior year is gone… it makes sense and would boost some minor interest. Would also help facility draft night trades.

 

[LoPo]

I think he’s over rated. Super hyped laker. He’s fine. I heard he was the sticking point in the Lowry to the Lakers trade which is just wild. If he figures out how to be a good shooter he’s got something. The list of guys that didn’t do that is pretty long. I’d rather get guys like Williams, Roby with the thunder without the “laker” tax.

I'm intrigued, but I'm not sold on him. Seems like he would want more playing time than we would be willing to offer this year. And he would have to be a S&T and I know you don't like those lol

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I'm intrigued, but I'm not sold on him. Seems like he would want more playing time than we would be willing to offer this year. And he would have to be a S&T and I know you don't like those lol

Ha. I like em… just think they are impossible for us capwise if we are getting the signee.

I think you’d have to pay 150% of what he’s worth currently to get him… and he may very well be 200% more than he currently is but it’s not a bet I’d be excited about making. A young team with oodles of cap space should offer him a big deal and make the Lakers sweat or lose him. OKC/NY should be all over him imo.

 

[jom2003]

It all comes down to what happen on draft night. Before then, it's all speculation as to our plan for this offseason. Need an upside guy with freakish athleticism to allow us to at least entertain with the idea of "running it back". If we blow it again like we did last year, it's near impossible to recover from that. No matter what approach we make, it all starts with July 29th......

 

[Ineptimusprime]

Losing Mike Conley for nothing would be bad by all accounts. Even if you don’t like the fit and want him gone. He’s an All-Star level player with positive trade value. You re-sign him, and if it isn’t working, move him at the deadline to move right back into the first round you are currently out of next year.

Do we currently even have a second rounder in next year’s draft?

I tend to agree that the optimal time to move Bogey is this offseason if we can find a deal for him.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Losing Mike Conley for nothing would be bad by all accounts. Even if you don’t like the fit and want him gone. He’s an All-Star level player with positive trade value. You re-sign him, and if it isn’t working, move him at the deadline to move right back into the first round you are currently out of next year.

Do we currently even have a second rounder in next year’s draft?

I tend to agree that the optimal time to move Bogey is this offseason if we can find a deal for him.

We don't have a second rounder until 2047.

 

[jom2003]

Losing Mike Conley for nothing would be bad by all accounts. Even if you don’t like the fit and want him gone. He’s an All-Star level player with positive trade value. You re-sign him, and if it isn’t working, move him at the deadline to move right back into the first round you are currently out of next year.

Do we currently even have a second rounder in next year’s draft?

I tend to agree that the optimal time to move Bogey is this offseason if we can find a deal for him.

DL threw away all of our second round picks till 2027. It's almost like the man knew he was not gonna be in the job for long so he showed the middle finger to the next guy in line and say "**** you and have fun with it"

 

[Ineptimusprime]

It all comes down to what happen on draft night. Before then, it's all speculation as to our plan for this offseason. Need an upside guy with freakish athleticism to allow us to at least entertain with the idea of "running it back". If we blow it again like we did last year, it's near impossible to recover from that. No matter what approach we make, it all starts with July 29th......

Yep, the draft and what Conley does on day 1 are the obvious inflection points here.

If we know Mike Conley is likely gone by draft day, I expect a trade on draft day and/or expect us to draft a big PG like Ayo.

If we draft a 3/4 at 30, or trade down and out of the first round, it probably means we like our chances of keeping Conley.

Draft should be the “tell” on Conley.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Yep, the draft and what Conley does on day 1 are the obvious inflection points here.

If we know Mike Conley is likely gone by draft day, I expect a trade on draft day and/or expect us to draft a big PG like Ayo.

If we draft a 3/4 at 30, or trade down and out of the first round, it probably means we like our chances of keeping Conley.

Draft should be the “tell” on Conley.

The tell will be if we trade back or offload salary.

 

[jom2003]

Losing Mike Conley for nothing would be bad by all accounts. Even if you don’t like the fit and want him gone. He’s an All-Star level player with positive trade value. You re-sign him, and if it isn’t working, move him at the deadline to move right back into the first round you are currently out of next year.

Do we currently even have a second rounder in next year’s draft?

I tend to agree that the optimal time to move Bogey is this offseason if we can find a deal for him.

and even though i generally agree with the idea of keeping Conley, it does come with some risk. If he demands too much, it's to our best interest not to bring him back because the "positive trade value" thing will just get thrown out the window. It may end up becoming Blake or Drummond 2.0 where every team wants his service but is unwilling to trade for his overpriced contract, which would force us to buy him out and let him walk for free.