Jazz players at the World Cup

[Stifle Tower]

Jazzfanz: where getting 3rd in ROTY voting (from a 9th overall pick mind you) is considered "miserable".

That's a cop out. It was the WEAKEST draft class in YEARS, if not decades. And he was a distant third (96 points vs. 569 for MCW and 364 for Oladipo) Where does he finish in the voting in any other season in recent history? The ROY was on the trading block after the season.

 

[ema]

JV had everything that Kanter needed.

A good developing season in Europe. A team without a stacked FC, a coach who respected him, gave him enough playing time and used him right, and the luck of not injuring himself in a stupid way.

 

[Hekate]

LOL.
You know what, I'm a FANTASTIC shooter. I just need to be wide open from 5 ft. Shot selection, form - everything plays into whether or not you're a good shooter. In the end, it still comes down to the fact Trey has still not shown he can hit shots consistently.

Yeah, you go play in the NBA then.

Don't you think you are too harsh on a point guard that was in his first year on a miserable team with no reliable scorer?

 

[Stifle Tower]

This is why there is no need to worry about what to do with Exum and Burke this year. Exum can only handle about 15 mins a night. Play him at backup PG. Work on his shooting mechanics. Let him go against scrubs. If he can fix his shot this year and nothing else, you have created a beast.

Then next year, open the spot up. See who wins the starting PG spot. Then next year, you can look to move one of the two, or move Burke to backup PG. There is no problem this year with Burke and Exum.

Exactly!
There is no need to worry about a PG competition this year. Nor is there a need to play then together. Let Burke start and play 30 mins, with Exum getting 18. As Dante improves his conditioning and EARNS it, have those mins start to even out later in the season.

 

[orangello]

JV had everything that Kanter needed.

A good developing season in Europe. A team without a stacked FC, a coach who respected him and gave him enough playing time and the luck of not injuring himself in a stupid way.

Awesome points, all of which are valid.

 

[GVC]

a coach who respected him and gave him enough playing time

JV averaged 1.5 more minutes per game last season. The season before, Kanter was on a team with 2 borderline all-star bigs.

 

[Stifle Tower]

Yeah, you go play in the NBA then.

Don't you think you are too harsh on a point guard that was in his first year on a miserable team with no reliable scorer?

Reality is harsh. The point (pun intended) is that Burke was a poor shooter last season. And he showed very little improvement in his second SL. If that was the ONLY concern then I'd hope he'd improve it. But he's also short, plays slow and doesn't get to the rim (which negates the one thing he DOES do well...shoot FT's).

Trey is going to be a solid backup or a starter on a very weak team, nothing more. The sooner all of you realize this, the better. Fortunately, I think the FO already has and had no hesitation drafting Dante.

 

[ema]

JV averaged 1.5 more minutes per game last season. The season before, Kanter was on a team with 2 borderline all-star bigs.

Exactly what I'm saying. And Enes played two seasons of it.

I'm not complaining much about the last season's playing time. Although Corbin still used him in the worst way possible.

 

[GVC]

Trey Burke was 36.6% FG and 35.2% 3PT in catch-and-shoot situations.

"OK" may be a bit of a stretch; .352 isn't horrible though (although it's not good either). He also shot better than 40% from the corner. I think he improves on those numbers this season; he has a decent stroke.

My point still stands though. It's not a "fact" that Burke can't shoot. He should be fine spotting up if he plays off-ball more this season. You have to defend him out to the 3-point line.

 

[GVC]

The point (pun intended) is that Burke was a poor shooter last season.

I think you need to look beyond field goal and 3-point percentage, especially when you're arguing that Trey and Dante can't play together.

 

[GVC]

Although Corbin still used him in the worst way possible.

How so? He played him in lineups that gave him more space on offense, allowed him to have the ball where he was comfortable (in the post), gave him plenty of opportunities with the ball, and didn't require him to make quick reads or tough passes. He also played a bunch of his minutes against bench players, which mitigated his weaknesses on both ends significantly.

 

[Stoked]

Reality is harsh. The point (pun intended) is that Burke was a poor shooter last season. And he showed very little improvement in his second SL. If that was the ONLY concern then I'd hope he'd improve it. But he's also short, plays slow and doesn't get to the rim (which negates the one thing he DOES do well...shoot FT's).

Trey is going to be a solid backup or a starter on a very weak team, nothing more. The sooner all of you realize this, the better. Fortunately, I think the FO already has and had no hesitation drafting Dante.

They had no hesitation drafting Dante as he was clearly the BPA at the time. I doubt Burke was even thought of. Maybe you are right but you, and several others, have written him off from the start.

Foolish