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Jazz trade Devin Harris to Atlanta for Marvin Williams (merged)

Verlin said:
Landry Fields just signed a 3 year 20 million dollar deal. Please tell me again why Marvin is not morth 7 million again? Anyone..anyone?
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Well, Toronto might have been **** blocking on Steve Nash, so that might explain a bit of the overpay. But, I wouldn't be shocked to see Marvin get a similar deal from someone next year if he does well here.
 
I'm pretty sure the Jazz can use their amnesty on Marv, provided he opted in, wasn't worth half his salary (still), and the Jazz though they could make a real splash with the cap room (which is the only way they should be doing it if they're signing FAs, as oppose to signing garbage longterm or paying the player's union for literally nothing).

And of course, if they don't waste their amnesty on Bell.
 
NUMBERICA said:
I'm pretty sure the Jazz can use their amnesty on Marv, provided he opted in, wasn't worth half his salary (still), and the Jazz though they could make a real splash with the cap room (which is the only way they should be doing it if they're signing FAs, as oppose to signing garbage longterm or paying the player's union for literally nothing).

And of course, if they don't waste their amnesty on Bell.
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Can't trade for a guy and amnesty him.
 
NUMBERICA said:
****. Really?
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67. What is the Amnesty provision?
Amnesty is a one-time opportunity for teams to release one player via the waiver process (see question number 63) and remove him from their team salary and luxury tax computations. For a player to be eligible for the Amnesty provision he must be on his team's roster continuously from July 1, 2011 to the date he is amnestied, without any new contract, extension, renegotiation or other amendment to his contract in the meantime. Players who were waived prior to July 1, 2011 and are still receiving guaranteed salary are also eligible. Teams cannot amnesty players they sign, receive in trade, extend, renegotiate, or otherwise amend after July 1, 2011.

https://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q67
 
theNBAnerd said:
67. What is the Amnesty provision?
Amnesty is a one-time opportunity for teams to release one player via the waiver process (see question number 63) and remove him from their team salary and luxury tax computations. For a player to be eligible for the Amnesty provision he must be on his team's roster continuously from July 1, 2011 to the date he is amnestied, without any new contract, extension, renegotiation or other amendment to his contract in the meantime. Players who were waived prior to July 1, 2011 and are still receiving guaranteed salary are also eligible. Teams cannot amnesty players they sign, receive in trade, extend, renegotiate, or otherwise amend after July 1, 2011.

https://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q67
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This is one of the reasons why they should have made the amnesty option a tradable chip. Utah had put itself in a position where it was unlikely to use it, so it would have been nice to be able to trade it.

sucks.
 
NAOS said:
This is one of the reasons why they should have made the amnesty option a tradable chip. Utah had put itself in a position where it was unlikely to use it, so it would have been nice to be able to trade it.

sucks.
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Or make some kind of reward for not using it.
 
NAOS said:
This is one of the reasons why they should have made the amnesty option a tradable chip. Utah had put itself in a position where it was unlikely to use it, so it would have been nice to be able to trade it.

sucks.
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Cyrone Torbin said:
Or make some kind of reward for not using it.
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actually, that's exactly why they specified that in this go-around. last time, teams with no clear amnesty candidates were being approached about "hey can you amnesty our guy for us and we'll give you ____." the whole purpose of the amnesty clause is to allow everybody one "undo" as the new rules set in, and for several reasons, they didn't like that instead it was used for one team to "undo" several moves by negotiating with teams that hadn't made those type of cap mistakes.

but i totally see your point. i see this the way i see the student loan forgiveness debate. i put myself through college by working hard and choosing a school i could afford, and as a result i graduated without $120K in student loan debt, but making less per year than others who went to fancier schools. if someone like that gets their debt erased, where is my $120K reward for living within my means?
 
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