Jazz trade Olynyk and Ochai to Toronto for Kira Lewis, Otto Porter, and a 2024 1st round pick

[HermanG]

I do not think these trades jeopardize Utah's longterm plans with Lauri. He's publicly stated how he wants to be here long-term, well after the trades we made at last year's deadline.

He actually reiterated that when we were like 7-16 and there was speculations that we could be willing to move him. He said he wants to stay here and that he trusts the plan going forward.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Agreed.

Losing KO could cost them 1-2 games but don't think they will crater assuming they don't rest all their guys like they did last season. Tecc is the only starter that got dealt and am excited to see what TayHenny can do with NBA minutes.

Trying to stay positive. It's pretty obvious the FO is playing the long game and this is the time to convert non core players into draft picks. DA wants to be a championship contender 4 years down the road and not looking to treadmill.

What will happen is they will let it ride and see how things gel but if they start losing games there will be some sore knees/backs happening to guys like Lauri/Clarkson/Sexton.

 

[r_u_s_t_b_u_c_k_e_t]

I mean damn near the entire board is telling me how good Simone and KO are. Which one is it?

Last season, when we traded everyone and started "tanking" that resulted in these two guys getting bigger roles!

 

[Doc Cherno]

The coveting of salary space makes me think the plan is all about snagging someone over the summer while adding promising rookie talent.

 

[Tanktastic]

Last season, when we traded everyone and started "tanking" that resulted in these two guys getting bigger roles!

KO played pretty much the exact same minutes every month last season.

 

[TheStormofWar]

For clarification, playing for the right to get blown out in the 1st round wasn't a great goal, but it's something. I'm also all for getting value for players you either aren't using or don't plan on re-signing, so I don't hate this really. I just am confused if we're looking to convey that pick anymore to OKC?

 

[HermanG]

Also we traded away our 5th, 7th and 10th best players thus far. Or something like that.

Last season we traded away our 3rd, (Conley), 7th and 8th best guys (Beasley and Vando), along with NAW.

Last year we didnt really even have guys like Hendricks and Brice to bring up. Well THT and Ochai were there, but they were already getting some rotation minutes.

 

[TheStormofWar]

Side note: Ainge now has some quickly acquired ammo for another deal in terms of space and picks. Curious where he goes with this.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Also we traded away our 5th, 7th and 10th best players thus far. Or something like that.

Last season we traded away our 3rd, (Conley), 7th and 8th best guys (Beasley and Vando), along with NAW.

Last year we didnt really even have guys like Hendricks and Brice to bring up. Well THT and Ochai were there, but they were already getting some rotation minutes.

According to BPM we traded our 2nd, 7th, and 9th.

IMO we traded our 4th/5th/10th

 

[fishonjazz]

Lewis is not going to sniff the court unless they are heavy tanking at the end.

Porter is also probably not going to play.

exactly. So you can see why Eliza might hate this trade even if he wasn't high on KO. Same thing for me.

 

[fishonjazz]

I'm still expecting the Clarkson trade to come in....but either way it's going to be a very barren team around Lauri. This has got to be the last time they play half a season only to quit....right?

EDIT: Nevermind on JC.

Why nevermind on JC? Did he just get traded?

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

exactly. So you can see why Eliza might hate this trade even if he wasn't high on KO. Same thing for me.

No, I really dont.

Walker is going to get a lot more minutes. Also Hendricks (who you said was a great shooter and defense)

If you have hated on KO (which Elizah has) this trade should be viewed as adding wins.