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Jazz trade Olynyk and Ochai to Toronto for Kira Lewis, Otto Porter, and a 2024 1st round pick

I just don't get why the Jazz are trying to get worse. They already have loads of draft picks and this year's draft is not good. None of the players they are receiving are better than the ones they are giving up.

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I just don't get why the Jazz are trying to get worse. They already have loads of draft picks and this year's draft is not good. None of the players they are receiving are better than the ones they are giving up.

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We have loads of draft picks from other teams that project to be later 1sts as of now. Our own picks are by far our most valuable asset and this draft most definitely has guys in the top 10 that can help us. I've said this a million times that this draft lacks star power but it still has a ton of high level role player caliber players.
 
I hope Ainge's long-term vision works out because short term he just traded three guys that make this team "watchable"

I don't think I can go back to watching a bunch of guys fighting over whose turn it is to shoot.
 
I guess when they said Lauri was untouchable they meant by any other Jazz player on the court. Now they’re thinking about moving Dunn and JC???
 
We might get our pick back from okc. If we just happen to be the best of okc, Clippers, or the rockets

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We have loads of draft picks from other teams that project to be later 1sts as of now. Our own picks are by far our most valuable asset and this draft most definitely has guys in the top 10 that can help us. I've said this a million times that this draft lacks star power but it still has a ton of high level role player caliber players.
The problem is you can't play them all.

If the Jazz should have and use all the picks next draft, they would have a 3rd year player in Kessler, three 2nd year players and three rookies. Giving them all minutes => 20-win team.
 
I just don't get the Ochai stuff. We seemed to really believe in him during the off season and then gave up on him after a bad month of shooting?

I'm not an Ochai homer, I just don't get the inconsistency in our thought process.
I don't think they saw enough out of him to think he'd be worth keeping around or ahead of Sensubean or any other wing.
 
The problem is you can't play them all.

If the Jazz should have and use all the picks next draft, they would have a 3rd year player in Kessler, three 2nd year players and three rookies. Giving them all minutes => 20-win team.
First off we may only have 2 picks if we are have decent and our pick goes to OKC. Secondly I think odds are we start to combine picks to target players rather than use all of our picks because of how many players we want to get rotation minutes.
 
I just don't get the Ochai stuff. We seemed to really believe in him during the off season and then gave up on him after a bad month of shooting?

I'm not an Ochai homer, I just don't get the inconsistency in our thought process.
It was not just a bad month of shooting. Can't create/dribble, looked awful in summer league. I'm guessing they saw enough in practice that they knew he was not part of the future plans for the team. His defense was much improved this year though.
 
SB Nation, Ricky O'Donnell:

Jazz grade: A-

Raptors grade: C

Danny Ainge can’t keep getting away with it. The Jazz executive lands another first round pick for Kelly Olynyk on an expiring deal and underwhelming former lottery pick Ochai Agbaji. Toronto must love Agbaji and/or think they can flip Olynyk later today, because otherwise this deal doesn’t make much sense for the Raptors. Toronto is sending a very late first round in this disappointing 2024 NBA Draft, and apparently they don’t value the pick. Ainge believes he’ll still be able to find a contributor in the late first. Olynyk was a nice piece for the Jazz and could help a contender, but the Raptors are tanking to try to keep a top-six protected pick they owe the Spurs. It feels like there has to be another shoe dropping for Toronto. The Jazz continue to be a well-run organization under Ainge.
I give the Raptors an A+ for going out of their way to replace the vowels lost in the Achiuwa, Annunoby deal. And I would think that an AO would trump an AA any day - not even enough for a triple A rating. And, the fact that one of those names is of African decent is also a big plus I imagine. Olynyk being of Canadian decent is just the icing on the cake.

PS J/K Better than what they had and Olynyk is a game changer for a team struggling to find a culture - invaluable for us early on. This pick better turn into something really good, otherwise I think we got rolled.
 
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