Jazz trade with Knicks

[NUMBERICA]

If we can unload Davis or cut NWG, we can promote him and sign #38 to 2-Way.

NWG has absolutely no business being on this roster to begin with.

 

[stitches]

Karl Malone shot 48 percent for the FT as a rookie and hit a high around 81 percent. Rudy has improved his FTs too. If the guy has a work ethic he can improve his FT.

It's not about the FT per se. FT is an indicator for future 3p shooting though. In fact, different studies suggest that college FT% is actually more predictive of future pro 3p success than college 3p%. You can always find the outliers with greatly improved shooting, but in the long run you won't be very successful betting on outliers to happen again and again.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

That all may be true, but I don't want no Scrubb. Scrubb is a guy who will get no love from me.

He thinks he's fine but he's a busta.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

You’re selling a guy on high character lmfao. Just stop.

there is plenty to like beyond the character.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

If we can unload Davis or cut NWG, we can promote him and sign #38 to 2-Way.

That's a big if on Davis. We will see what happens.

But even if we cut NWG and Tucker, those two spots are taken up by the two new picks (one would assume could be a stash or 2-way guy at 38).

Where does Brantley even fit on this team? He's behind Morgan and Niang on the depth chart and the Jazz might add another 4 type. It just doesnt look good for him. I expect to remain a 2-way I would assume.

 

[Avery]

Also, this likely makes it harder for Brantley to make the team as I've predicted.

I don't think we should assume the #38 pick gets elevated over Brantley in any way. Very possible that the Jazz could draft a INTL player to stash anyway if they believe roster size is an issue.

Eboua is someone who could get time in the G League and potentially make a real impact - boom or bust, but I like him. Maybe Bane even gets there.

 

[idiot]

Completely disagree. He has pretty good mechanics and excellent release point. He's a guy who hustles and has high character. He has everything you want outside of wiggle with his handle. The NBA game will really open up his game. He was just in a bad fit for his game.

Was watching State vs. Villanova again last night. That lack of wiggle is exactly what struck me. I like Woodard, but see why this could be a real limiting factor.

 

[idiot]

If he does become mid-30s shooter, his athleticism and developing defense might indeed make him worth a pick in the 20s, but yeah... I guess I am just not that much of a believer in it. His FT% for example is attrocious and FT% is one of the main predictors for 3p% transition to the league.

For those citing the low FT %, I did a personal study last week on the correlation between college 3% and FT% with NBA 3%. My main takeaway was that while FT% was indeed a better predictor than 3% (by about 1.5 - 2 times), neither comes close to being what you'd call determinative. The correlation between college 3% and NBA 3% was only about 30-35%. That's important, to be sure, but there's also a whole lot more to the outcome of good or bad pro 3% than college FT%. That means there's still lots of room for visual analysis of form to factor in to what we believe the NBA shot potential is.

 

[idiot]

Tillie reminds me of Maxi Kleber but is a better shooter... we've needed that type of player for so long. The medical red flags are really red and blinking... but maybe he just had a bad run while his body was developing.

Man, I just don't see that with Tillie. I can't see anywhere close to that athleticism and versatile defense. Length for size is poor. But yeah, the offense is more skilled.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Where does Brantley even fit on this team? He's behind Morgan and Niang on the depth chart and the Jazz might add another 4 type. It just doesnt look good for him. I expect to remain a 2-way I would assume.

Brantley is our version of Paul Millsap. He can spot up from 3, move the ball, make a play off the dribble and finish inside. He wasn't ready as a rookie to contribute, and the Jazz didn't have a glaring need for him last season (like they had a glaring need for Morgan to defend big 4s and 5s). I think Brantley is a rotation player as soon as he's ready. If not, the Jazz can trade him and get something back.

FWIW, if the Jazz draft Woodard, I don't think he's going to play meaningful minutes as a rookie. Shooting, passing and decision-making are all question marks with him, imo.

 

[idiot]

I wonder if we can use #38 to shed Ed....

Bite your tongue! We need two bites of the apple. (But you're right that it could be helpful in getting more room in FA.)

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Man, I just don't see that with Tillie. I can't see anywhere close to that athleticism and versatile defense. Length for size is poor. But yeah, the offense is more skilled.

He's not as athletic but can provide some rim protection from the 4 or 5 while spotting up. That's the mold/player type imo... but he could be more Ryan Anderson that blocks a shot every now and again... and that's okay too.