Jazz vs. Mavs in round one

[Handlogten's Heros]

Yeah, I think the Jazz should win this series in 5 games before Luka even shows up. Right now, Luka is sitting on an exercise bike and putting light pressure on his leg. He's not doing anything on the court. There's no chance he's available for Games 1 and 2, it's almost certain he'll be out for Game 3, and he'd have to really rush things to be back for Game 4. The injury is real.

It doesn't matter what the status of the series is, Luka is going to be out a while.

The things you are saying are not facts at all. I heard Jeff Stotts, the in street clothes guy, say he wouldn’t be surprised to see Luka in game 2 if it was on Tuesday… the podcast was recorded yesterday so he didn’t have the schedule.

Here is what will happen… if we are up 2-0 Luka comes back for game 3. If they get the split they wait for game 4.

We know nothing of the grade or placement of the injury. He may get to a place where he is good enough to try it and it is now or never.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I wish Luka was healthy.

The way I view it is - if we're a title contender, we should be able to beat them anyways. If we're not a title contender, then there's really no potential for accomplishing anything meaningful in this postseason - we beat the Mavs without Luka and then get crushed by the Suns, whoohoo.

Beating the Mavs with Luka would've been kinda cool.

There is also going to be BS from the local media and organization that “hey they made the second round… they didn’t take a step back and they lost to the eventual champion… they are contenders!!!”

You never know what can happen so maybe we catch some extreme health luck and restore confidence but it sure looks like delaying the inevitable.

Also you forgot the most important thing… more playoff games means more money for Ryan… maybe we can save a couple seconds with some extra playoff dough!!!! Let the good times rolllllllll!!!!

 

[LifeOnaPlate]

yeah i don't care what he says, this one is different., They can cater to him all they like, calf strains are no joke. I had a very mild one and i couldn't do impact exercise for a month

It looked like such a basic move, too, like guys run off their leg like that all the time, and it got injured? How???

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

The things you are saying are not facts at all. I heard Jeff Stotts, the in street clothes guy, say he wouldn’t be surprised to see Luka in game 2 if it was on Tuesday… the podcast was recorded yesterday so he didn’t have the schedule.

Luka isn't putting weight on the calf and isn't cleared for on-court activity, let alone running and contact. Not sure what Jeff Stotts said, but this doesn't appear to be a very minor calf strain. I'd be very surprised if he's back a week from now, which is Game 3. If he is back that soon, it's because he's rushing to come back, and he won't be 100% or close to it.

Ryan will make more money by winning the series and securing a 2nd-round appearance.

 

[KqWIN]

There is also going to be BS from the local media and organization that “hey they made the second round… they didn’t take a step back and they lost to the eventual champion… they are contenders!!!”

You never know what can happen so maybe we catch some extreme health luck and restore confidence but it sure looks like delaying the inevitable.

Also you forgot the most important thing… more playoff games means more money for Ryan… maybe we can save a couple seconds with some extra playoff dough!!!! Let the good times rolllllllll!!!!

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If it restores confidence in Mitchell+Gobert to play at least one more year together, that would be fantastic. Maybe the FO would have enough motivation to address the glaring and obvious flaws....but I could be wrong. The flaws couldn't be more obvious, and yet their solution was Miye Oni one year and 35 year old Rudy Gay the next.

 

[Jingled]

If it is just a grade strain, there's probably a good chance he's back by game 3 or 4.


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[Handlogten's Heros]

Luka isn't putting weight on the calf and isn't cleared for on-court activity, let alone running and contact. Not sure what Jeff Stotts said, but this doesn't appear to be a very minor calf strain. I'd be very surprised if he's back a week from now, which is Game 3. If he is back that soon, it's because he's rushing to come back, and he won't be 100% or close to it.

Ryan will make more money by winning the series and securing a 2nd-round appearance.

You don’t know if he’s putting weight on it. We have no idea what he is doing other than 10 second clips here and there. Him working out is a way to load the muscle without putting weight through it. He will have to hit certain milestones but I highly doubt he should be doing on court stuff a couple days after the injury. I could see them having him do on court activities a day before and then declaring him good to go.

Stotts basically said if game two is on Tuesday he wouldn’t be surprised to see him play… I’m guessing that means he thinks it’s likely by next Thursday. 11 days doesn’t seem majorly aggressive when you consider his age and that the 16 day average has a lot of regular season conservativeness built into it. If they are down 2-0 he comes back for game 3… if it’s 1-1 he waits for game 4 is my guess. The need to avoid losing hope… if they are down 3-0 it’s pretty hopeless… if they bring him back early and it gets aggravated then they lose hope.

I’d be shocked if we won 4-1 or 4-0… I’ll just put it that way.

 

[Jingled]

Another thing to keep in mind, teams don't allow the media to watch an entire practice...they usually allow them in for the last few minutes of practice or after the practice is over and guys are still on the court getting extra work in. These little 5 second clips of Luka on a stationary bike going around social media don't tell the whole story. We have no idea what he's doing behind the scenes, or whether or not he's putting any weight on his calf.

 

[Elizah Huge]

You don’t know if he’s putting weight on it. We have no idea what he is doing other than 10 second clips here and there. Him working out is a way to load the muscle without putting weight through it. He will have to hit certain milestones but I highly doubt he should be doing on court stuff a couple days after the injury. I could see them having him do on court activities a day before and then declaring him good to go.

Stotts basically said if game two is on Tuesday he wouldn’t be surprised to see him play… I’m guessing that means he thinks it’s likely by next Thursday. 11 days doesn’t seem majorly aggressive when you consider his age and that the 16 day average has a lot of regular season conservativeness built into it. If they are down 2-0 he comes back for game 3… if it’s 1-1 he waits for game 4 is my guess. The need to avoid losing hope… if they are down 3-0 it’s pretty hopeless… if they bring him back early and it gets aggravated then they lose hope.

I’d be shocked if we won 4-1 or 4-0… I’ll just put it that way.

Consider yourself shocked because we are sweeping.

 

[Sean]

I wish Luka was healthy.

The way I view it is - if we're a title contender, we should be able to beat them anyways. If we're not a title contender, then there's really no potential for accomplishing anything meaningful in this postseason - we beat the Mavs without Luka and then get crushed by the Suns, whoohoo.

Beating the Mavs with Luka would've been kinda cool.

I don't think the Jazz are contenders, though. They're a fifth seed for a reason and go through the history of the NBA Playoffs, at least from 1950, and you'll see only nine teams in history have made the Finals with a seed lower than three.

Only one, Houston in 1995, actually won it.

9 teams out of 150 or so. Statistically, it's not impossible - but quite improbable (like 1%).

And that's counting two with unusual circumstances:

Miami (5 seed) from 2020 during that wild COVID in the bubble season and New York (8 seed) from the lockout shortened 1999 season.

So, when you don't factor in anomaly NBA seasons or playoffs, which absolutely could have had an impact, we're looking at a total of seven teams since 1950.

It's just not a good number.

So, at this point, I just want the Jazz to win as many playoff games as possible. That's way more likely to happen with Luka out.

NBA seeding is important and absolutely dictates whether a team is a title contender. Utah isn't a title contender. History pretty much shows this.

 

[MTS]

I don't think the Jazz are contenders, though. They're a fifth seed for a reason and go through the history of the NBA Playoffs, at least from 1950, and you'll see only nine teams in history have made the Finals with a seed lower than three.

Only one, Houston in 1995, actually won it.

9 teams out of 150 or so. Statistically, it's not impossible - but quite improbable (like 1%).

And that's counting two with unusual circumstances:

Miami (5 seed) from 2020 during that wild COVID in the bubble season and New York (8 seed) from the lockout shortened 1999 season.

So, when you don't factor in anomaly NBA seasons or playoffs, which absolutely could have had an impact, we're looking at a total of seven teams since 1950.

It's just not a good number.

So, at this point, I just want the Jazz to win as many playoff games as possible. That's way more likely to happen with Luka out.

NBA seeding is important and absolutely dictates whether a team is a title contender. Utah isn't a title contender. History pretty much shows this.

Like I said, if we aren't contenders, then Luka being out means there's no potential for accomplishing anything meaningful this postseason. I think beating the Mavs with Luka would've been meaningful. Without him, meh.

 

[MTS]

Luka isn't putting weight on the calf and isn't cleared for on-court activity, let alone running and contact. Not sure what Jeff Stotts said, but this doesn't appear to be a very minor calf strain. I'd be very surprised if he's back a week from now, which is Game 3. If he is back that soon, it's because he's rushing to come back, and he won't be 100% or close to it.

Where did you get your medical degree from again?