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Hey man i'm just saying, if X was an awesome PG he'd be starting. He can score better than Rubio no doubt.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Yep (for the most part, I would pass on having them each play five minutes and would instead have them alternate games where they get substantial time).

Guys playing like actual **** need their leashes trimmed if we’re going to have this depth and we’re fighting for seeding. Royce and Rubio have been dreck, there’s just no way around it. Glad Mitchell saved this one, because if he even goes for just 20/3 the Jazz likely lose this.
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I know I'm the #1 Georges Stan, but I also think the guy deserves more time... per 36 he's 20 and 9... shooting over 40% on threes and gets a ton of 3s up (per 36 of course). His defensive rating is a 106 which is very solid. He's always in the right place and is a smart fella. I think he eventually gets more run and we will wonder why we didn't go to him sooner.
 
Rubashov said:
At a guess I'd say Don's +/- took a hit during the 3rd when Joe was on the bench and our ball movement sucked.
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Something. Every idiot and expert watching that game knows what happened which is why you take into account production, efficiency, and +/-. In other words, context. Rubio sucked and benefitted from playing with franchise players.

Favors played an otherwise efficient and good game as an individual, but his inability to spread the floor and asking him to guard in space for the entire game means he got pulled and got a +1. Crowder produced very inefficiently, but just the threat of his shot opens up the offense and he is perfectly comfortable guarding in space, capable of switching virtually every position. He had a +6 even though the bench didn’t produce.

Ingles with the +16 because he’s the perfect team player.
 
rare144 said:
Hey man i'm just saying, if X was an awesome PG he'd be starting. He can score better than Rubio no doubt.
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Ricky has been not very awesome. Defense was good. Culture wise he's amazing. Offense its a bad fit. We made it work last year, but if he doesn't figure things out soon I'm not sure why we are forcing the round peg into the square hole. We don't need a traditional pg with our system... George Hill thrived and is not a "true pg".

I think Ricky eventually comes around but it is really bad and even when its good I find it hard to trust him.
 
rare144 said:
Hey man i'm just saying, if X was an awesome PG he'd be starting. He can score better than Rubio no doubt.
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Rubio’s the starter, no doubt. But giving him that amount of minutes while Exum and AB tore it up is a very poor basketball decision.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Something. Every idiot and expert watching that game knows what happened which is why you take into account production, efficiency, and +/-. In other words, context. Rubio sucked and benefitted from playing with franchise players.

Favors played an otherwise efficient and good game as an individual, but his inability to spread the floor and asking him to guard in space for the entire game means he got pulled. Crowder produced very inefficiently, but just the threat of his shot opens up the offense and he is perfectly comfortable guarding in space, and switching virtually every position. He had a +6 even though the bench didn’t produce.

Ingles with the +16 because he’s the perfect team player.
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single game +/- is really misleading... honestly straight +/- can be misleading.

Ricky wasn't a complete nothing, because he defended well and gave great effort... his offense was bad and they really started sagging off of him.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Rubio’s the starter, no doubt. But giving him that amount of minutes while Exum and AB tore it up is a very poor basketball decision.
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If the team believes long term that Dante is the guy at that spot he needs more minutes... especially when Ricky is struggling and he is playing well.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Ricky has been not very awesome. Defense was good. Culture wise he's amazing. Offense its a bad fit. We made it work last year, but if he doesn't figure things out soon I'm not sure why we are forcing the round peg into the square hole. We don't need a traditional pg with our system... George Hill thrived and is not a "true pg".

I think Ricky eventually comes around but it is really bad and even when its good I find it hard to trust him.
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Dante brings the ball up and gets it into Donovan's hands as quickly as possible... BAM.
 
I think at the 10-12 game mark it is appropriate to make a change to the starting lineup if things are still trending the way they currently are.
 
rare144 said:
Hey man i'm just saying, if X was an awesome PG he'd be starting. He can score better than Rubio no doubt.
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Look Ricky brings leadership and toughness, Quin trusts him, so do his team mates. Dante's play thus far has been ok if he continues and improves and ricky doesn't (which is unlikely) rickys contract situation at the end of the year becomes interesting.
 
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