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J. D. Vance and his warm embrace of Neo Nazis….Good opening question, Vance supporters: what part of “Neo Nazi” appears to be going over J.D.’s head? As for Musk, he is certainly also very much a Neo Nazi supporter in his appeals to German voters. I do wonder what it’s going to take for this administration’s supporters to condemn embracing Neo Nazism?
PARIS — What part of “neo-Nazi” does JD Vance not understand?
That’s one question that arises from his decision to meet with the head of a German political party so extreme, and with such a long and noxious history of sanitizing and embracing symbols and slogans of the Third Reich, that even other radical right-wing parties in Europe have ostracized it.
The other question is: If Vance does grasp the party’s track record, which includes recent eruptions of Nazi-inspired chants at its rallies, why would he embrace it anyway?
This is the man who in 2016 worried that Donald Trump was “America’s Hitler.” Nothing indicated he regarded that as a net plus.
In a trip to Germany last week, the vice president doubled down on his decision to hold a tête-à-tête with Alice Weidel, leader of Alternative for Germany, known as AfD, with a speech excoriating mainstream European leaders gathered at a conference in Munich. He accused themof nurturing a “threat from within” by excluding and persecuting far-right groups, which he called a “retreat of Europe from some of its most fundamental values.”
The obvious point is Vance’s hypocrisy in accusing European allies of spurning their values — this from an administration suggesting it will ignore court rulings, exacting revenge against political rivals and purging nonpartisan career prosecutors and civil servants who enforced duly enacted laws.
But he might have done more lasting damage by his interference in the internal politics of a major ally — in this case nine days before German elections, in which Weidel is the AfD candidate for chancellor. By meeting with her — and none of the mainstream German candidates, including incumbent Chancellor Olaf Scholz — Vance shattered a taboo that he would consider outrageous if the tables were turned. Imagine Germany’s No. 2 elected official swanning around with a leftist presidential candidate — Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, say, who is hardly as radical the AfD — on the eve of U.S. elections in 2028.
That Vance took up the cause of the AfD, a party polling at around 20 percent which many Germans regard as beyond the pale, is heedless of history and contemptuous of the transatlantic alliance. In doing so, he managed to transform Europe’s old stereotype of the Ugly American into something more grotesque: the Malicious American.
That leaves the question of why.
The superficial answer is that the Trump-Vance worldview dovetails with AfD-Weidel’s. Both have established brands, and appealed to base voters, largely in opposition to what they regard as out-of-control immigration. Both reject the idea that multiculturalism is socially and economically desirable.
Equally important, both revile wokeness and its elite champions in politics, culture and education. And both are hostile to the power wielded by mainstream liberal democrats in the European Union, a sprawling bureaucracy they see as a regulatory menace and an impediment to the propaganda that propels their movements. In addition, both are sympathetic to Vladimir Putin and indifferent, at best, to Ukraine’s struggle for sovereignty and a place in the club of Western nations.
Beyond their overlapping policies, there is something more sinister at work in Vance’s decision to meet with Weidel — whose party, it’s worth noting, has long had an anti-American streak.
Unlike some other hard-right parties in Europe, such as Marine Le Pen’s National Rally in France, the AfD has made no attempt to rebrand itself as a mainstream movement within the traditional parameters of postwar German politics. With all the AfD’s neo-Nazi eruptions, there have been no apologies, no contrition, no retreats. Those eruptions including Weidel’s own recent rallies, where she has basked in chants of “Alice für Deutschland,” a homophonic play on the banned Nazi slogan “Alles für Deutschland.”
It’s one thing to oppose unbridled and illegal immigration, which has inspired anger and despair in the United States and Europe. It’s another to traffic in symbols and slogans that were proscribed by postwar German lawmakers specifically because they feared a revival of Nazism in its birthplace, and were determined that Germany would forbid it.
“A commitment to ‘never again’ is … incompatible with support for the AfD,” Scholz said Saturday in rebuking Vance. “Never again fascism, never again racism, never again war of aggression.”
By meeting with Weidel, and thereby lending the AfD a measure of legitimacy it could not previously have imagined, Vance broadcast the message that Trump’s United States will pay any soft-power price, and bear any reputational burden, to promote its most cherished goal: namely, ridding Western countries of immigration’s scourge.
With his Yale law degree, Vance is often extolled in Republican circles as an intellectual, a trait no one would attribute to Trump. But it is the rare intellectual who would be so blind to the lessons of history.
PARIS — What part of “neo-Nazi” does JD Vance not understand?
That’s one question that arises from his decision to meet with the head of a German political party so extreme, and with such a long and noxious history of sanitizing and embracing symbols and slogans of the Third Reich, that even other radical right-wing parties in Europe have ostracized it.
The other question is: If Vance does grasp the party’s track record, which includes recent eruptions of Nazi-inspired chants at its rallies, why would he embrace it anyway?
This is the man who in 2016 worried that Donald Trump was “America’s Hitler.” Nothing indicated he regarded that as a net plus.
In a trip to Germany last week, the vice president doubled down on his decision to hold a tête-à-tête with Alice Weidel, leader of Alternative for Germany, known as AfD, with a speech excoriating mainstream European leaders gathered at a conference in Munich. He accused themof nurturing a “threat from within” by excluding and persecuting far-right groups, which he called a “retreat of Europe from some of its most fundamental values.”
The obvious point is Vance’s hypocrisy in accusing European allies of spurning their values — this from an administration suggesting it will ignore court rulings, exacting revenge against political rivals and purging nonpartisan career prosecutors and civil servants who enforced duly enacted laws.
But he might have done more lasting damage by his interference in the internal politics of a major ally — in this case nine days before German elections, in which Weidel is the AfD candidate for chancellor. By meeting with her — and none of the mainstream German candidates, including incumbent Chancellor Olaf Scholz — Vance shattered a taboo that he would consider outrageous if the tables were turned. Imagine Germany’s No. 2 elected official swanning around with a leftist presidential candidate — Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, say, who is hardly as radical the AfD — on the eve of U.S. elections in 2028.
That Vance took up the cause of the AfD, a party polling at around 20 percent which many Germans regard as beyond the pale, is heedless of history and contemptuous of the transatlantic alliance. In doing so, he managed to transform Europe’s old stereotype of the Ugly American into something more grotesque: the Malicious American.
That leaves the question of why.
The superficial answer is that the Trump-Vance worldview dovetails with AfD-Weidel’s. Both have established brands, and appealed to base voters, largely in opposition to what they regard as out-of-control immigration. Both reject the idea that multiculturalism is socially and economically desirable.
Equally important, both revile wokeness and its elite champions in politics, culture and education. And both are hostile to the power wielded by mainstream liberal democrats in the European Union, a sprawling bureaucracy they see as a regulatory menace and an impediment to the propaganda that propels their movements. In addition, both are sympathetic to Vladimir Putin and indifferent, at best, to Ukraine’s struggle for sovereignty and a place in the club of Western nations.
Beyond their overlapping policies, there is something more sinister at work in Vance’s decision to meet with Weidel — whose party, it’s worth noting, has long had an anti-American streak.
Unlike some other hard-right parties in Europe, such as Marine Le Pen’s National Rally in France, the AfD has made no attempt to rebrand itself as a mainstream movement within the traditional parameters of postwar German politics. With all the AfD’s neo-Nazi eruptions, there have been no apologies, no contrition, no retreats. Those eruptions including Weidel’s own recent rallies, where she has basked in chants of “Alice für Deutschland,” a homophonic play on the banned Nazi slogan “Alles für Deutschland.”
It’s one thing to oppose unbridled and illegal immigration, which has inspired anger and despair in the United States and Europe. It’s another to traffic in symbols and slogans that were proscribed by postwar German lawmakers specifically because they feared a revival of Nazism in its birthplace, and were determined that Germany would forbid it.
“A commitment to ‘never again’ is … incompatible with support for the AfD,” Scholz said Saturday in rebuking Vance. “Never again fascism, never again racism, never again war of aggression.”
By meeting with Weidel, and thereby lending the AfD a measure of legitimacy it could not previously have imagined, Vance broadcast the message that Trump’s United States will pay any soft-power price, and bear any reputational burden, to promote its most cherished goal: namely, ridding Western countries of immigration’s scourge.
With his Yale law degree, Vance is often extolled in Republican circles as an intellectual, a trait no one would attribute to Trump. But it is the rare intellectual who would be so blind to the lessons of history.
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JD Vance for the win!
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We are the good guys. They rounded up and killed 6 million Jews. We stopped them.
JD Vance has an opinion they don't like. They have made it law to criminally prosecute those with opinions they don't like, but they cant do that to JD Vance because he is an American, so they are throwing a tantrum instead.
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Vance's speech shows VP's star is on the rise. I'm proud of America again. | Opinion
JD Vance, who defended free speech last week in Europe, is the kind of vice president Americans deserve.
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"Now that Kamala Harris is no longer vice president, can I say the quiet part out loud? She was embarrassing and clumsy. She made me cringe.
Watching Harris speak to a crowd or give an interview made me feel humiliation for our country. I'd think, this is our best? This is who we brought to the world stage to represent us?"