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Jimmy Butler's Day off - Jazz @ Timberbulls 10/31/2018 6 pm MST

The Fresh Prince said:
Lmfao Derrick Rose drops 50 on Rubio and some people still have the audacity to say "Rubio is a better player." I know some of you are biased and all, but holy ****.
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Rubio is better. Rose is awful. He had a good game. It happens. Terrence Ross once scored 51 points.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Rubio is better. Rose is awful. He had a good game. It happens. Terrence Ross once scored 51 points.
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Maybe last season. Look at the stats this year and tell me where Rubio trumps Rose at? Not gonna argue with your biased opinions playa. We all know its tradition to overrate our players.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
It's basically impossible to play Niang more if Crowder is playing well unless Quin decides to play them togther. Crowder also offers a hustle/rebounding/toughness presence that is really important. Niang isnt a guy who comes up with 50/50 balls and Crowder is.

The entire team looked like they had been on the road for 9 days, cuz that's what had happened.
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In general Niang needs to play more... maybe not last night. Crowder can play some at the three... I don’t see them as guys that can’t play together.

Crowder is streaky... Niang is shooting over 50% from three and is a better passer. I think crowder and Niang should get all the PF minutes when we aren’t playing teams like Minny.
 
Like I said, we can work out of this. However, we have to win these games if we want to be considered contenders. Two of their top 5 were out. They are a mess. We can't give a troubled rival hope like that.

My issue with PF is finding the right balance. Everybody knows Crowder should start but we start Favors for some kind of lifetime achievement recognition. Niang is emerging but will we play him consistently enough? Hell, Ingles should play PF some in games like last night.

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Saint Cy of JFC said:
The problem is that Exum isnt good enough in half-court situations and the high outcome possibility of Rubio is better than that of Exum. Exum getting his game tying shot blocked from a mile away when I think any other perimeter player on our team could have gotten the shot off was a bit of an example.
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A high outcome possibility is only important if it has a decent probability and if the floor outcome isn’t just awful. Ricky has this far not shown enough consistency in hitting that high outcome possibility and when he doesn’t he has been murdering the offense. He plays good defense and comes up with loose balls but even on defense there are some guys that give him trouble.

Exum is better in the halfcourt than you are giving him. Can take the dribble handoff turn the corner and make stuff happen... is breaking the paint and finishing better than Rubio... has shown that he can throw a good lob pass. He can also get his spot up shot off because guys can’t close hard on him or he can blow by them on a straight line drive.

I’m not sure Exum the answer but it’s looking more like Rubio may not be.... I just don’t know if we are good enough offensively to cover for him when he isn’t shooting straight.
 
elan_prodigy said:
Every minute Udoh has played this year Exum has been on the court.

2, 14, 5, 5 have been Udohs minutes the last 4 games. When Exum only gets 12-18 mins a night thats a lot! He throws everything out of sync.
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He's played 25 minutes of his total 132 minutes this season with Udoh.

Exum has gotten 57 minutes with Gobert. He's gotten 55 minutes with Favors. 50 minutes with Mitchell. 80 minutes with Ingles. 38 minutes with Niang. 88 minutes with Crowder.

He's playing with talent. Stop with that Udoh scapegoating.
 
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Saint Cy of JFC said:
He's played 25 minutes of his total 132 minutes this season with Udoh.

Exum has gotten 57 minutes with Gobert. He's gotten 55 minutes with Favors. 50 minutes with Mitchell. 80 minutes with Ingles. 38 minutes with Niang.

He's playing with talent. Stop with that Udoh scapegoating.
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Playing with Favs and Royce is no better. He needs shooters or 2015 Fav. If Fav could still pick n pop Exum would feed him all night.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
A high outcome possibility is only important if it has a decent probability and if the floor outcome isn’t just awful. Ricky has this far not shown enough consistency in hitting that high outcome possibility and when he doesn’t he has been murdering the offense. He plays good defense and comes up with loose balls but even on defense there are some guys that give him trouble.

Exum is better in the halfcourt than you are giving him. Can take the dribble handoff turn the corner and make stuff happen... is breaking the paint and finishing better than Rubio... has shown that he can throw a good lob pass. He can also get his spot up shot off because guys can’t close hard on him or he can blow by them on a straight line drive.

I’m not sure Exum the answer but it’s looking more like Rubio may not be.... I just don’t know if we are good enough offensively to cover for him when he isn’t shooting straight.
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We know it's coming with Rubio, so it's worth enduring some struggle. Rubio showed what's he can do in New Orleans.

The exact same **** happened last year, and I defended Rubio and it paid off. I don't think Rubio will take as long this year to get into his groove.

Again, Rubio is the guy who put up a triple double in the playoffs. He's worth having some faith and patience in.

And last night, Exum is the one who got cooked by Rose to a higher degree. https://stats.nba.com/game/0021800107/matchups/?sort=POSS&dir=1&OFF_PLAYER_ID=201565&DEF_PLAYER_ID=
 
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