Why would they say that about a guy if they wanted to trade him? Doesn't that hurt his trade value that's been a little recovered now that his finger and shooting issues seem resolved?
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That is weird, but it is generally known that Hardy has a difficult system. If adopting to a difficult system is the only problem you have with the guy, then there are teams with easier systems or systems where he is more of a natural fit.
I mean you have to give some excuse as to why you put the guy on the block so soon. Otherwise potential buyers are just speculating and might be more concerned about it.
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If he sucks because he sucks that hurts more than he sucks just because he doesn't fit a specific system
Does no one remember how confused Hardy sounded about using Collins in the opening press conference?
Jazz are breaking up and using the "it's not you it's me"' line
Andy Larsen sounds like he was directly told this. I don't think it's something he accidently overheard. But I could be wrong. He discussed it more on Reddit and it sounds like he is just saying what the staff told him.
That's fair enough. I also think they could be trying to motivate him. They could be trying to prep him to come off the bench. It just seems odd.
If we trade him I don't really care much.
I think that proves how much of our success comes from playing as a unit.
Collins individual play is not that level bad, and yet he is a net negative well beyond his counting stats in every single 2-5 man lineup.... so its not really a fit thing either (unless you want to say that he is a bad fit with EVERYONE). He just doesnt have a grasp on what Hardy wants him to do in different situations, and causes system malfunctions regardless of who he plays with.
I think Atlanta may have broken him and seeing how the Hawks struggle to adapt to Quin's systems I'm thinking there might be others who are broken as well. Nate McMillan ran such elemantary offenses and defenses that when you all of a sudden have to master something more complex you have years of playing only with your instincts and habits that you first need to overcome.
I definitely feel like Collins has been better lately even though the 3 isn't falling as much