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[Jones]BREAKING: Jazz willing to engage Celtics in S&T talks: But Gordon Hayward must agree

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Ostertag>Duncan said:
One thing though, if the reports are true that Dickward and his agent "immediately" agreed to do the S&T that basically forces Ainge's hand doesn't it? Either Gooberantimensche's camp is lying again or this has to happen and it gives us all the leverage.
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Well, one thing about this, is that Haywood could have done something like that in the first place if he was so "torn" about leaving. We all just saw how Chris Paul worked out a S&T with Houston. Regardless, Crowder is a valuable asset and it would be out of character for Ainge to do any deal where he is getting less than he could elsewhere.

Maybe his kid's election actually comes into play here, but I don't think it's a case of Hayward saying do this or I'm not coming to Boston. Guess we'll just have to wait and see how it plays out.
 
Gordon will have to really dig in here. They could get an asset from another team to do the salary dump. How far will gordon go for us? I mean we mean the world to him right?
 
Cappy_Smurf said:
Well, one thing about this, is that Haywood could have done something like that in the first place if he was so "torn" about leaving. We all just saw how Chris Paul worked out a S&T with Houston. Regardless, Crowder is a valuable asset and it would be out of character for Ainge to do any deal where he is getting less than he could elsewhere.

Maybe his kid's election actually comes into play here, but I don't think it's a case of Hayward saying do this or I'm not coming to Boston. Guess we'll just have to wait and see how it plays out.
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This would have been a move that made much more sense before the blog post. Hey Boston I'm torn I don't want to *** rapenthese guys I will come if you give them crowder otherwise I'm going back.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Gordon will have to really dig in here. They could get an asset from another team to do the salary dump. How far will gordon go for us? I mean we mean the world to him right?
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I know that will be tough to hear for Jazz fans — and I really want you all to know that you mean the world to me and my family.
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First, though, if you don’t mind, I would really like to just take a moment and express how much these last seven years in Utah have meant to me. Because there’s only one fair way to say it: They’ve meant everything.
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"everything" and "the world" ...

But seriously... this is delusional. Hayward is not going to do anything to weaken his team. If we want Crowder or Bradley or whoever we will have to pay for it.
 
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Sadly this is true ... and what assets do we have? They can do better than a lottery protected pick, and I don't think we're in a position to offer anything better.
 
I think another factor that we haven't discussed is that the other 29 teams in the NBA know the situation Boston is in. They know that Boston has to shed salary to sign Hayward. I'd be willing to bet that when Ainge gets on the phone he's getting lowballed to the extreme.
 
Sneakers said:
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Sadly this is true ... and what assets do we have? They can do better than a lottery protected pick, and I don't think we're in a position to offer anything better.
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I see Boston went and edited when news broke
 
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Our man Woj is more sophisticated, has better connections, and money. Let's play ball
 
I think a sign and trade happens. I just find it hard to believe insiders like Woj and Zach Lowe would bring it up if it wasn't actually being discussed. And it's too convenient for both teams to not happen. I'm not sure we'll get Crowder. It might be a player(s) on cheaper contracts like Terry Rozier instead. But if we get the huge trade exception it's still definitely worth it over getting nothing.
 
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