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[Jones]BREAKING: Jazz willing to engage Celtics in S&T talks: But Gordon Hayward must agree

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dude's a tank, i don't mind giving assets to get him.

BTW, what was one of Heywoods best traits? his passing/playmaking. we needed this because we didn't have a real point guard. well guess what, we do now. it might seem weird, but with Rubio, Heywood might not have been as good of a fit as he was before. better to have a player that can rely on Rubio's playmaking by literally bashing his way to the rim. like this guy.
 
RJF said:
They have a logjam at SF with 2 sf's drafted, Crowder, and Hayward. They're not gonna trade the guys they just drafted or the FA they just got.
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Plus, I envision Crowder being very pissed right now after the whole mid-season Boston fans for Benedict lovefest.

They may surprisingly move him to keep a healthy locker room. Doubt it. But maybe.
 
I'd be surprised if anything comes of this but Crowder would be a great consolation as well as a good fit (considering position, age, attitude, contract, etc). I would prefer Smart/Bradley but both are due for extensions shortly & would likely be somewhat redundant on this roster, assuming Mitchell (& to a lesser extent Exum) develop.

If our approach is to continue to attempt to compete rather than re-group/re-build, Crowder would go a long way towards keeping us competitive. He would bring some of the hustle/energy that we lost when Carroll left. I'd prefer a semi/full rebuild, but we still have plenty of useful players/assets to patch together a playoff caliber roster.

Even if we intend to flip him (or any assets we may be lucky enough to get back), we need all the assets we can get at this point. Here's hoping Hayward & BOS really want that 5th year.
 
Boston is not going to gift us Crowder. They have no reason to. If we are going to get him, we will need to beat other teams' offers. There are multiple teams that can absorb him and give up a good future asset in return.
 
Crowder would be a great fit and Boston needs to move him to avoid a risk of a locker room meltdown and their new shiny toy having his jaw broke. Crowder won't give up his spot lightly and would detest Hayward for being coaches bet and everyone fawning over him.

The Jazz FO need to press hard for Crowder, him replacing Hayward takes our damage level from a 90/100 to a 20... We can pick up were we finished up at not waste a second of #27.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
That's probably way too complicated for me to figure out every angle for each player, and it probably isnt the case, but could the other 29 owners be that petty towards Ainge?
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I would have said no way, but with the Butler and George deals going the way they did, it almost looks to me like Ainge is pissing people off with his negotiating, to the point they'd rather take a loss just to be able to give him the bird.

IDK, apparently Boston was expecting a late lotto for Crowder, and I really hate the idea of giving up a pick that could be conveyed even if we miss the playoffs. I just have a hard time believing Ainge isn't going to be a stubborn **** with this.
 
Cappy_Smurf said:
I would have said no way, but with the Butler and George deals going the way they did, it almost looks to me like Ainge is pissing people off with his negotiating, to the point they'd rather take a loss just to be able to give him the bird.

IDK, apparently Boston was expecting a late lotto for Crowder, and I really hate the idea of giving up a pick that could be conveyed even if we miss the playoffs. I just have a hard time believing Ainge isn't going to be a stubborn **** with this.
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One thing though, if the reports are true that Dickward and his agent "immediately" agreed to do the S&T that basically forces Ainge's hand doesn't it? Either Gooberantimensche's camp is lying again or this has to happen and it gives us all the leverage.
 
Ostertag>Duncan said:
One thing though, if the reports are true that Dickward and his agent "immediately" agreed to do the S&T that basically forces Ainge's hand doesn't it? Either Gooberantimensche's camp is lying again or this has to happen and it gives us all the leverage.
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He wants to do it but if they say no sorry is he just going to sign with us then? That's his full leverage point and I doubt he gets there. They risk damaging the new relationship by not helping and I'm sure Crowder is already pissed off.

Thought through this and it would actually be just huge for us. The trade exception has a cap hold so we could waive diaw and still operate over the cap. We could use MLE and BAE and still have the exception in our pocket for salary dumps. It'd be worth giving up a pick for but it is probably a PR hit we don't want to take.
 
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