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just gonna lob this out there

We'd have to do it... they would likely decline, but they shouldn't. They are doing the classic half *** rebuild that will leave them in mediocrity. Lillard and CJ are too good to lose enough. Leonard is meh, plumlee is okay, Vonleh looks like ****. No other real great prospects... no draft picks coming back right now and I think they have one going out. This ends with Dame having no help. If they have CJ, Favs, Exum (better match with CJ), and a couple other 1sts they have the makings of building something. They could also go tank city a bit without Dame.

Tough to build a team with one all star, one good young player, and late lottery picks. I guess they could land something in FA, but that doesn't seem really likely either.
 
I am a huge Lillard fan and really wanted him back in the 2012 draft, even though we didnt have any first round picks that year.I really dont think this trade gets it done though. I grew up in Portland and all of my buddies are huge Blazer fans, and the franchise is going all in on Lillard. Favors is a great PF, but they want a superstar that they can market as 'The Guy'. Favors doenst have that kind of appeal I think and Exum is still a huge unknown.

I'd hate to see Favors go, but I'd probably be happy if this trade happened, but I don't see it ever going down. Lillard is HUGE in Portland.

Has his defense improved this year? I know he isn't the greatest defender
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
We'd have to do it... they would likely decline, but they shouldn't. They are doing the classic half *** rebuild that will leave them in mediocrity. Lillard and CJ are too good to lose enough. Leonard is meh, plumlee is okay, Vonleh looks like ****. No other real great prospects... no draft picks coming back right now and I think they have one going out. This ends with Dame having no help. If they have CJ, Favs, Exum (better match with CJ), and a couple other 1sts they have the makings of building something. They could also go tank city a bit without Dame.

Tough to build a team with one all star, one good young player, and late lottery picks. I guess they could land something in FA, but that doesn't seem really likely either.
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these are the notions that this trade idea is built around. Portland has to fear this outcome. I'm sure they're praying to all deities that Dame can bring a top-tier FA to Portland with the $$ they have from the rising cap. If not, they don't have a title window opening.
 
pointgawh said:
and we have zero all-star, what does that say about our rebuilding?
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We have three border line all stars, a prospect with all star potential in Exum, a couple other good young guys in lyles, hood, and burks... Some fringe assets like Burke and cap space... And all of our own picks plus a couple others in the next three years. Think it's going just fine.
 
Dr. Jones said:
Just random thoughts not really in direct response;

I hope I'm wrong, but I think we've struck some fools gold with Lyles. I'm not ready to pencil him a definite starter by any stretch, yet.

I am still bullish on Exum.
Burke needs to go.
Keep Gobert.
See what we can get for Favors, but likely keep him.
Burks and Hood are available but not as giveaways.
Let Booker go.
Hayward stays.

I know people will laugh at this, but our greatest assets right now are our picks. Over the next three years we have 5 1st round picks and 10 2nd round picks. We need to parlay them, somehow, into a top 5 pick in '17. Top 5 is a perennial all-star. Of the top 5 there are 2 electric PG's. Two outstanding SF's. One incredible PF.

Tbh, I'm ready to semi blow the team up. It just doesn't feel like we have the true building blocks for a contender and as much as everyone will simply accuse me of loving the draft process and throw out stupid jabs re: the Sixers, etc.. the mountain of draft picks is our way UP. Whether through parlaying to a HIGH '17 pick, or giving them up for a kick *** veteran. I guess what I am saying is our picks have more value than our players to build/re-build the team.

This next line is only for anyone that cares to bash my post. Who are we building around?
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I agree with this, minus keeping Hayward (at least at a max deal), unless we are somehow able to turn Burks/Hood/picks into a SG who is an established true #1 scoring option (which is unlikely). Exum, Favors, & Gobert are the building blocks to an elite defensive team, that is who I would build around. Seeing as how they are rarely available, the draft is likely the only way we will acquire that missing elite scorer.

If we stay the current course, I feel like we will come up just short of winning a championship (more so due to the state of the league than our level of talent), even if we are able to re-sign Hayward. If we're going to rebuild, retaining Hayward seems counterproductive as he would likely keep us competitive enough to prevent us from getting the top 5 draft pick(s) we need.

Unless the team starts to really click soon, I would prefer to see them trade Hayward at the deadline, in order to maximize his value (assuming we are able to find a reasonable return) & continue stockpiling assets in order to acquire that current/future offensive star, rather than risk him potentially walking as an UFA the following year. As far as upsetting the rest of the roster, Exum & Gobert are both controllable for the foreseeable future & I view Favors as much less likely to walk as an UFA than Hayward (especially with an extra year to rebuild), but that is complete speculation on my part.
 
pointgawh said:
and we have zero all-star, what does that say about our rebuilding?
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It says that we are rebuilding. Which means that we are young. Few young developing players make the Allstar game. Avg allstar is ~29 years old.
 
Hack said:
You are the worst poster ever.

Hey guis, wut do you think of my completely implausible trade idea that I don't support.

Hilarious. that's so weak. Grow some balls man. You have no right to talk trash to me when you be posting garbage like this.
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Pot, meet kettle.
 
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