Kaep

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Me personally was blind to a point of the inequality. I was even a little put off by Kaep at first glance. Then I looked into it and heard Kaep speak. He has some damned good points


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Yes he does. I still find kneeling disrespectful but after hearing him speak I realized that was not his intention. So I didn't really hold it against him. But after looking into it more and the other actions he has taken I have issue with his message of "pigs" directed at police. I do not agree with that. Their is a clear (to me at least) need for adjustments, corrections and inclusion in the police force and justice system. But I wont support statements like that.

Edit: But I have always supported his right to say and wear these things and rejected, to me, the over done outrage.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

Yes he does. I still find kneeling disrespectful but after hearing him speak I realized that was not his intention. So I didn't really hold it against him. But after looking into it more and the other actions he has taken I have issue with his message of "pigs" directed at police. I do not agree with that. Their is a clear (to me at least) need for adjustments, corrections and inclusion in the police force and justice system. But I wont support statements like that.

Have u never said or done something in a fit of anger? It shouldn't make any less the message.

Do you think Rosa Parks was being disrespectful when she refused to give up her seat on the bus I can only imagine how many people thought she was being disrespectful. As an American it was her right to not give up her seat. It's Right to sit for the anthem according to the laws of America.


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Have u never said or done something in a fit of anger? It shouldn't make any less the message.

Do you think Rosa Parks was being disrespectful when she refused to give up her seat on the bus I can only imagine how many people thought she was being disrespectful. As an American it was her right to not give up her seat. It's Right to sit for the anthem according to the laws of America.


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Wearing socks to a practice is a thought out process not a fit of anger.

Rosa Parks? Really? What a bad comparison based on what I am saying. Considering I have explicitly, multiple times now, said the bolded.

 

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Either way I do not see much use running in circles on this topic.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

Have u never said or done something in a fit of anger? It shouldn't make any less the message.

Do you think Rosa Parks was being disrespectful when she refused to give up her seat on the bus I can only imagine how many people thought she was being disrespectful. As an American it was her right to not give up her seat. It's Right to sit for the anthem according to the laws of America.


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Wasn't comparing the two. Just stating that what Kaep is doing isn't disrespectful. Anyone who understands the constitution understands that


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Wasn't comparing the two. Just stating that what Kaep is doing isn't disrespectful. Anyone who understands the constitution understands that


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You absolutely compared the two.

I can respect the bolded. You do not find it that way, ok cool. Not everyone does, clearly. But that's ok.

The red is nothing but opinion. I find that an odd statement tbh. If anything I see it the opposite way, the constitution protects people's rights no matter how it offends. In this case Kaep has the right, constitutionally protected, to do this despite people being offended.

Very different way of thinking about that. Interesting, thanks.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

You absolutely compared the two.

I can respect the bolded. You do not find it that way, ok cool. Not everyone does, clearly. But that's ok.

The red is nothing but opinion. I find that an odd statement tbh. If anything I see it the opposite way, the constitution protects people's rights no matter how it offends. In this case Kaep has the right, constitutionally protected, to do this despite people being offended.

Very different way of thinking about that. Interesting, thanks.

What is red?

 

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What section of the Constitution defines respect?

 

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What is red?

Haha, oof. Sorry hold on...
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[Stoked]

What section of the Constitution defines respect?

To me or Thee Jazz Fan?

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

And to be honest I do not think it was ever intended that way by those protesting. But their are so many of us with so many views someone is bound to be offended. So I do not think Kaep meant to offend people even though he did.

Either way we all have the same right/freedom to express our views as we wish within the rights and confines of the constitution.

Spot on. My impression has always been that his initial protest was not well thought out. It wasn't as if he had set it up in a way to get attention. The only image I ever saw was a grainy shot where I had to take people's word for who it even was. Next thing you know everyone is freaking out about it. I don't think the same thing would have happened if he had knelt from the beginning.

Personally, I completely respect his right to protest and I think that kneeling is a good way of doing it. I do not know anyone who thinks that police violence is a good thing. Sometimes, unfortunately, it's necessary, but I've seen several instances where I wish the police had acted differently. That said, I'm sure glad I don't have to trade jobs with them.