TheStormofWar
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I don't get this. Are Trumpers hating on the word "quixotic" or something? Are Trumpers afraid to visit news websites or watch TV? Back in our day, we had this thing called a newspaper.
I don't get this. Are Trumpers hating on the word "quixotic" or something? Are Trumpers afraid to visit news websites or watch TV? Back in our day, we had this thing called a newspaper.
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Robert B. Reich: Trump’s hate is no joke
Opinion by Robert B. Reich, Tribune Content Agency• 4h • 4 min read
The second apparent attempt on Trump’s life — yesterday at his golf club in West Palm Beach, Florida — occurred just over two months after he was wounded during an attempt on his life at a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania. “They’re not coming after me, they’re coming after you,” Trump said after the first attempt. “I’m just standing in the way".
“They” should not be coming after anyone. There is no place in our democracy for violence, nor for threats of violence.
Which brings me to Trump’s claim in last week’s debate that Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio, are “eating the dogs … eating the cats. They’re eating — they’re eating the pets of the people that live there.”
It quickly became a vast internet joke, fueling thousands of hilarious memes and songs. But it’s no laughing matter. Trump’s claim has already provoked threats of violence.
Over the weekend, two hospitals in Springfield were locked down after bomb threats, police said. Other threats received by Springfield officials have forced government buildings to close, two elementary schools to be evacuated and the students moved to a different location, and a middle school to shut down altogether.
After JD Vance first began spreading baseless rumors about Haitians in Springfield, members of the neo-Nazi group “Blood Tribe” marched into the city carrying guns, wearing body armor, and carrying Neo-Nazi flags. At an Aug. 27 town hall meeting, one claimed that the city had been taken over by “degenerate third worlders,” blamed Jews for the influx, and warned that “crime and savagery will only increase with every Haitian you allow in.”
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Springfield’s Haitian immigrants say they are afraid. Some have kept their children home from school, fearing violence. Others have reported harassment on the street, in their cars, and at stores. A Springfield family whose son died last year when the bus in which he was riding accidentally collided with a car driven by a Haitian immigrant has pleaded for Trump and Vance to stop using their deceased son for political purposes.
Yet Trump and JD Vance are doubling down. Yesterday, before the attempt on Trump’s life, Vance said on CNN that the claims about Haitians eating the pets of Springfield residents came from “firsthand accounts from my constituents.” When interviewer Dana Bash suggested that the claims had caused bomb threats, Vance called her a “Democratic propagandist.” But the connection is indisputable.
Rather than offhand comments, Trump’s and Vance’s claims are calculated. Trump’s last two posts on Truth Social before the debate were AI images of cats and ducks — one depicting cats in military fatigues carrying assault rifles and wearing MAGA hats, the other showing the candidate himself sitting on a plane amid a crowd of ducks and cats.
Trump is now talking about holding a rally in Springfield. “We’re going to get these people out,” Trump said in a Friday news conference. Although Springfield’s Haitian immigrants are in the United States legally, he promised to stage “the largest deportation in the history of our country” if reelected.
Trump’s and Vance’s claims are completely bogus. Ohio’s Republican governor, Mike DeWine, told CBS News on Wednesday that “these Haitians came in here to work because there were jobs, and they filled a lot of jobs. And if you talk to employers, they’ve done a very, very good job and they work very, very hard.”
Another of Trump’s bogus claims is now threatening legal immigrants in Aurora, Colorado, a Denver suburb that Trump has repeatedly asserted is being “taken over” by Venezuelan criminals. “Simply not true,” Aurora’s Republican mayor and city council member wrote in a joint statement.
As in Springfield, Trump’s baseless claims are harming innocent people in Aurora. Immigrants there say they have been told their nationality makes them ineligible for jobs or housing. Trump’s claims have led to threats and drawn armed groups to the city, claiming to offer vigilante-style protection.
Trump and Vance are using the oldest of tyrannical ploys — fueling deep-seated fears by creating an “other” — depicted as subhuman — who “take over” towns and “devour” loved ones.
In Springfield, the loved ones are peoples’ pets. But how far is this bogus claim from vicious Nazi claims of Jews devouring children? Substitute “Jew” for “Haitian” in Springfield or for “Venezuelan” in Aurora, and you’re back to the Nazis of the 1930s.
In demonizing and dehumanizing migrants, Trump and Vance are not just seeking to win over a few wavering voters across the nation or making a play for control of the Senate. They are trying to scare America into becoming a more fearsome, more racist nation.
“They’re poisoning the blood of our country,” Trump said of immigrants at a rally in New Hampshire eight months ago, virtually quoting Adolf Hitler (who wrote in “Mein Kampf” that “All great cultures of the past perished only because the originally creative race died out from blood poisoning.”)
In a last-ditch effort to prevail in their campaign, Trump and Vance are encouraging the haters. On Sept. 10, Vance told his followers to “keep the cat memes flowing,” notwithstanding that they were endangering people in his own state.
Meanwhile, members of Trump’s social media war room — including Trump confidante Laura Loomer (known for sexist, homophobic, transphobic, anti-Muslim, and antisemitic posts) — are busily spreading AI-generated images of dogs and cats being protected by Trump, along with other content promoting the claim that the pets were being eaten by Haitians.
Let me repeat: There no justification whatsoever for violence or threats of violence in our democracy. While utterly despicable, yesterday’s second apparent assassination attempt on Trump can be seen as a symptom of the hate-filled politics he and Vance are peddling.
This must stop.
(Robert Reich, former U.S. Secretary of Labor, is professor of public policy at the University of California at Berkeley and the author of “The System: Who Rigged It, How We Fix It.” Read more from Robert Reich at https://robertreich.substack.com/)
©2024 Robert Reich. Distributed by Tribune Content Agency, LLC.
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I think the problem is that mainstream news is obvious bias propaganda. I'm not sure how anyone can emerge from covid and Afghanistan not to mention Vietnam and not have skepticism of mainstream news. I mean "Quixotic"? Why choose that word? They are literally romanticizing this dip **** shooter.
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Leaked Supreme Court memos reveal John Roberts' role in shielding Trump from prosecution
Story by Nicholas Liu• 3h • 4 min read
"John Roberts, the chief justice of the Supreme Court, on Feb. 22 issued a memo to his colleagues urging them not only to take up an appeal from former President Donald Trump over his immunity claim, but also to rule in favor of granting him that immunity.
“I think it likely that we will view the separation of powers analysis differently” from the appeals court, he wrote in the memo leaked to the New York Times, essentially suggesting the court would shield Trump from certain charges and the appellate court's decision greenlighting his 2020 election interference trial.
The document, along with other justices' memos, accounts of the proceedings and testimony from sources the Times interviewed, offers a window into Roberts' high level of involvement in several cases that benefited Trump and ultimately helped him climb out of a mire of legal troubles that threatened to upend his 2024 presidential campaign. According to the Times, his handling of the cases surprised other justices in a court where six of the nine members have been appointed by Republican presidents. Three of them were appointed by Trump.
Roberts exerted his influence in March this year, when he persuaded the other judges to rule that states could not unilaterally kick federal candidates from a ballot. While the judges agreed unanimously on the matter, the court's liberals dissented to an additional proposition that anyone seeking to enforce the Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment against insurrectionist candidates running for office would need to first obtain congressional approval. In June, the chief justice took charge of the case that ended with the court declaring that the government was too zealous in its prosecution of January 6 insurrectionists. The case was originally assigned to Justice Samuel Alito, who surrendered it to Roberts shortly after the storm broke over his wife hanging an upside-down American flag -- an emblem of the "Stop the Steal" movement -- though it's unconfirmed that the flag controversy was the reason for the switch.
Alito's flag troubles and revelations that Justice Clarence Thomas's wife Virginia encouraged some of Trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election provoked widespread calls for the two judges to recuse themselves from the three cases involving Trump. Both of them, declining those calls, ruled with the conservative majority in all of them.
The Times reported that during the discussions over Trump's immunity case, some of the conservative justices wanted to schedule it for the next term, which would have certainly meant a post-election decision. The chief justice, joining the court's liberals, chose to hear the case earlier. Oral arguments began in April, and, by then, it was clear that Roberts and the other conservative justices were focusing not on Trump's actions or the "here and now of this case," in the words of Justice Brett Kavanaugh, but on broader legal questions.
“I’m not discussing the particular facts of this case,” Alito told the courtroom. Justice Neil Gorsuch added that they were writing "a rule for the ages."
Roberts and Kavanaugh, who worked to protect presidential powers as White House lawyers, brought their perspective to the bench, raising concerns that a president who could be prosecuted for official acts might not wield his powers effectively.
Two months later, Roberts circulated a draft opinion that prompted Justice Sonia Sotomayor to offer agreement on some points in order to moderate the forthcoming decision, according to sources familiar with the proceedings. Roberts, who has often favored consensus, did not accept. In a historic 6-3 decision, the Supreme Court made a ruling that not only shielded Trump from prosecution, but also broadly expanded the scope of presidential power in the future.
Roberts used a decidedly lofty tone to justify the decision, invoking Alexander Hamilton's views on a strong presidency to argue that the desire to hold Trump accountable could not justify a clipping of his office's authority. “In a case like this one, focusing on ‘transient results’ may have profound consequences for the separation of powers and for the future of our Republic,” he wrote. “Our perspective must be more farsighted.”
That perspective, if it ever had merit, did not resonate with the public. Liberals condemned the decision as a dangerous abuse of power by conservative justices, while conservatives celebrated it as a political victory for their favored presidential candidate. And it failed to provide cover for a Supreme Court already diminished by other much-criticized decisions and scandals that raised questions over the partiality of some of its justices.
Overseeing the immunity case before the Supreme Court's intervention was Judge Tanya Chutkan, who must now interpret the its ruling in Trump v. United States and decide which charges against Trump are still valid under the new framing of what a president can or cannot do. And when that interpretation is revealed, both sides will be able to appeal her ruling. More delays are likely, as is the seeming inevitability that the case will once again end up in the Supreme Court.
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Also, I don't have X. I knew about the trump shooter.
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Robert B. Reich: Trump’s hate is no joke
Opinion by Robert B. Reich, Tribune Content Agency
• 4h • 4 min read
The second apparent attempt on Trump’s life — yesterday at his golf club in West Palm Beach, Florida — occurred just over two months after he was wounded during an attempt on his life at a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania. “They’re not coming after me, they’re coming after you,” Trump said after the first attempt. “I’m just standing in the way".
“They” should not be coming after anyone. There is no place in our democracy for violence, nor for threats of violence.
Which brings me to Trump’s claim in last week’s debate that Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio, are “eating the dogs … eating the cats. They’re eating — they’re eating the pets of the people that live there.”
It quickly became a vast internet joke, fueling thousands of hilarious memes and songs. But it’s no laughing matter. Trump’s claim has already provoked threats of violence.
Over the weekend, two hospitals in Springfield were locked down after bomb threats, police said. Other threats received by Springfield officials have forced government buildings to close, two elementary schools to be evacuated and the students moved to a different location, and a middle school to shut down altogether.
After JD Vance first began spreading baseless rumors about Haitians in Springfield, members of the neo-Nazi group “Blood Tribe” marched into the city carrying guns, wearing body armor, and carrying Neo-Nazi flags. At an Aug. 27 town hall meeting, one claimed that the city had been taken over by “degenerate third worlders,” blamed Jews for the influx, and warned that “crime and savagery will only increase with every Haitian you allow in.”
Robert ReichProvided by Tribune Content Agency
Springfield’s Haitian immigrants say they are afraid. Some have kept their children home from school, fearing violence. Others have reported harassment on the street, in their cars, and at stores. A Springfield family whose son died last year when the bus in which he was riding accidentally collided with a car driven by a Haitian immigrant has pleaded for Trump and Vance to stop using their deceased son for political purposes.
Yet Trump and JD Vance are doubling down. Yesterday, before the attempt on Trump’s life, Vance said on CNN that the claims about Haitians eating the pets of Springfield residents came from “firsthand accounts from my constituents.” When interviewer Dana Bash suggested that the claims had caused bomb threats, Vance called her a “Democratic propagandist.” But the connection is indisputable.
Rather than offhand comments, Trump’s and Vance’s claims are calculated. Trump’s last two posts on Truth Social before the debate were AI images of cats and ducks — one depicting cats in military fatigues carrying assault rifles and wearing MAGA hats, the other showing the candidate himself sitting on a plane amid a crowd of ducks and cats.
Trump is now talking about holding a rally in Springfield. “We’re going to get these people out,” Trump said in a Friday news conference. Although Springfield’s Haitian immigrants are in the United States legally, he promised to stage “the largest deportation in the history of our country” if reelected.
Trump’s and Vance’s claims are completely bogus. Ohio’s Republican governor, Mike DeWine, told CBS News on Wednesday that “these Haitians came in here to work because there were jobs, and they filled a lot of jobs. And if you talk to employers, they’ve done a very, very good job and they work very, very hard.”
Another of Trump’s bogus claims is now threatening legal immigrants in Aurora, Colorado, a Denver suburb that Trump has repeatedly asserted is being “taken over” by Venezuelan criminals. “Simply not true,” Aurora’s Republican mayor and city council member wrote in a joint statement.
As in Springfield, Trump’s baseless claims are harming innocent people in Aurora. Immigrants there say they have been told their nationality makes them ineligible for jobs or housing. Trump’s claims have led to threats and drawn armed groups to the city, claiming to offer vigilante-style protection.
Trump and Vance are using the oldest of tyrannical ploys — fueling deep-seated fears by creating an “other” — depicted as subhuman — who “take over” towns and “devour” loved ones.
In Springfield, the loved ones are peoples’ pets. But how far is this bogus claim from vicious Nazi claims of Jews devouring children? Substitute “Jew” for “Haitian” in Springfield or for “Venezuelan” in Aurora, and you’re back to the Nazis of the 1930s.
In demonizing and dehumanizing migrants, Trump and Vance are not just seeking to win over a few wavering voters across the nation or making a play for control of the Senate. They are trying to scare America into becoming a more fearsome, more racist nation.
“They’re poisoning the blood of our country,” Trump said of immigrants at a rally in New Hampshire eight months ago, virtually quoting Adolf Hitler (who wrote in “Mein Kampf” that “All great cultures of the past perished only because the originally creative race died out from blood poisoning.”)
In a last-ditch effort to prevail in their campaign, Trump and Vance are encouraging the haters. On Sept. 10, Vance told his followers to “keep the cat memes flowing,” notwithstanding that they were endangering people in his own state.
Meanwhile, members of Trump’s social media war room — including Trump confidante Laura Loomer (known for sexist, homophobic, transphobic, anti-Muslim, and antisemitic posts) — are busily spreading AI-generated images of dogs and cats being protected by Trump, along with other content promoting the claim that the pets were being eaten by Haitians.
Let me repeat: There no justification whatsoever for violence or threats of violence in our democracy. While utterly despicable, yesterday’s second apparent assassination attempt on Trump can be seen as a symptom of the hate-filled politics he and Vance are peddling.
This must stop.
(Robert Reich, former U.S. Secretary of Labor, is professor of public policy at the University of California at Berkeley and the author of “The System: Who Rigged It, How We Fix It.” Read more from Robert Reich at https://robertreich.substack.com/)
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TheStormofWar
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MSM is in the business of clicks, views, or fishwrap sales. Two words: Yellow Journalism. Otherwise, simply put, Fox News would not exist. People tend to accuse CNN of being a liberal media outlet, but if they actually bothered to read, they've been fairly friendly to Trump in a lot of stories up to recent. Been that way forever and a day. It's part of the reason why I avoid them is because they have no bearing, which indicates lines of bull**** under the hood.
If I had to choose between a vetted story and the BS on ExTwitter? That's not much of a contest.
Given the dude's history? Quixotic is very much an accurate (and probably the most apt) term. It's not romanticizing anything.
TheStormofWar
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Okay mate, you're smoking some good **** that you're not sharing with the rest of us.
