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fishonjazz said:
I can help you on the last one.

If trump accepted his defeat does January 6th happen?
January 6th 100% has to be owned by trump.

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I get what you’re saying, I really do. If you are the leader of the party, or business, you are responsible for anything that happens, if you intend to do it or not.

Then you see videos of unique and interesting things that were happening that day and in the back of my mind, I’m thinking not everything here is adding up.

That’s where I left it.
 
Sardines said:
I don't have direct links to anything but I did listen to some of the hearings and I heard a summary of it with audio from the hearings and other direct statements from people involved.

I understand it wouldn't have been hard to convince me, but the info I got from all that was much more than I was expecting. For instance, they (people working close to Trump in the White House) were openly talking about a "big event" happening on Jan. 6th. In online chat groups with for the Proud Boys etc, they were hyping it up and many of the people in charge of those chat rooms and in charge of those groups had texts between them and people in the White House exposed. There was A LOT of coordination between these groups and the White House. There was testimony from people in the white house who were raising the alarm and saying that they needed to do something to cool this off because "someone might get hurt". Those pleas were strongly rejected, not that someone might get hurt, but the idea that they might want to cool things off, by most of the people involved in the WH. There were chats where specifics of what they were going to try to do were discussed.

Anyway, I know I was impressed by the info. Sorry that I don't have a bunch of links, I don't expect my post to change your mind or anyone else's, just wanted to say that the evidence exists and it's very strong. The White House was involved in planning Jan. 6th. It was not a spontaneous thing. It was planned and it was planned by the White House.
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Imo it doesn't matter who coordinated it.

Trump yelled about how this was the most fraud in election history for months. Had people giving him money to "stop the steal" (this money of course was really for nothing more than trumps bank account). Telling pence not to certify the vote due to all the fraud. All while presenting no evidence and losing in court over 60 times.

When you have such a devoted flock and you rile them up and get them as mad as possible and then give a speech and tell that riled up angry mob to march on the Capitol and fight or you won't have a country anymore then you are responsible.

To top it off you just kick back and watch the carnage and do nothing to stop it. Then once law enforcement has it under control and trump sees that it isn't going to work he conveniently comes out of hiding and tells them to go home in a 1 minute long speech (1 minute from a guy who normally rambles for hours) 40 seconds of which trump did nothing more than offer sympathy to the rioters.

He also suggested later in the day that the invasion of the Capitol by his supporters was a natural consequence of his victory being "stripped away." Officials have found no evidence of widespread fraud and dozens of lawsuits aimed at flipping the results have failed in court. Not to mention all the audits and recounts.

We need to never forget or forgive his punk *** for how he handled his election loss and how he still speaks of that loss to this day. **** trump for that ****. Makes me very angry.

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Bucknutz said:
I get what you’re saying, I really do. If you are the leader of the party, or business, you are responsible for anything that happens, if you intend to do it or not.

Then you see videos of unique and interesting things that were happening that day and in the back of my mind, I’m thinking not everything here is adding up.

That’s where I left it.
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Those unique and interesting things happening don't mean all the other **** didn't happen.

For example, because some cops let some rioters into the building doesn't mean that other cops weren't violently assaulted by other rioters.

Because some people were peacefully protesting and some were simply trespassing doesn't mean others weren't hitting cops with weapons and breaking down doors and busting windows and chanting hang pence compete with a gallows.

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Bucknutz said:
That’s fine you don’t have to take me serious.

Trump is genuine and real:

View: https://x.com/JoeDanMedia/status/1814812770686103615



Kamala is not genuine:

View: https://x.com/RNCResearch/status/1815818534200697037


This is the same argument made with Romney and Obama…Romney was a robot, not genuine, stiff. Obama, I would have a beer with.

Kamala would just laugh nervously because she wouldn’t know what to say. Trump would just talk about anything without a filter.
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People that vote on mannerisms, shouldn't be allowed to vote.
 
Safetydan said:
Andy Beshear VP announcement incoming??

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That was my choice for Democrat nominee.
fishonjazz said:
Those unique and interesting things happening don't mean all the other **** didn't happen.

For example, because some cops let some rioters into the building doesn't mean that other cops weren't violently assaulted by other rioters.

Because some people were peacefully protesting and some were simply trespassing doesn't mean others weren't hitting cops with weapons and breaking down doors and busting windows and chanting hang pence compete with a gallows.

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See this is when I stop. I have surface level knowledge on this subject. I can’t agree or disagree with you because I honestly don’t know. You obviously know much more than me on J6.
 
Bucknutz said:
Who’s voting on mannerisms?

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Actually I'm not even sure what mannerisms means.
I typically vote on intelligence first. Public speaking ability 2nd. Morals (least amount of scandal) 3rd. If I were to vote anyway lol.

I basically just don't want the president to be an embarrassment.

That's why Obama is my favorite of my lifetime. Smart. Amazing speaker. No scandals in his personal life that I can think of. Never embarrassed me as an American

Trump would obviously fail in all categories.

Biden was very embarrassing

Bush was embarrassing. Clinton was embarrassing too.

Doesn't seem like too much to ask to simply not be a bumbling scandalous idiot does it?


I didn't graduate from my high school yet I think I would score higher in a standardized test than Bush and trump. And old Biden too (though I think young Biden was probably smart)

The president should never be less intelligent than me lol
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I think Mark Kelley would be Harris best choice to help win the election. (not my first choice though)
 
Hearsky said:
RFK, Jr. is a huge crypto advocate. BTC would 50x if the US match to gold. At that point, all the hookers and blow are on me.

Lots of talk that Trump will announce plans for the Treasury to accumulate Bitcoin to back the dollar when he speaks Saturday. That will change the tide of the election, unless Kamala pivots hard. Kamala and Doug have owned BTC since 2014 and are tight with the tech bros crowd. Pretty sure she gets it and will pivot as necessary. The really isn't a partisan issue. More liberals own BTC than conservatives. It's more of a boomers/millennials issue.

Has anyone here read/listened to "The Creature from Jekyll Island: A Second Look at the Federal Reserve"? Blows my mind what our banking industry is built on.
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View: https://x.com/holden_culotta/status/1816954196949901547?s=46&t=BMMZjW7vq0_zwnmLDjNTgQ
 
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