Bucknutz
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Which criticism’s of Trump would you like to know where I stand?
Bucknutz
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So It’s okay for you to criticize RFK and Trump but Kamala is off the table for me and others because she the Democrat nominee?
Bucknutz
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Not voting for her. Why can others complain about RFK or Trump non stop here, yet they get triggered when someone criticizes their choice?
Critize RFK…it’s the same couple points, Anti-Vax, CIA conspiracies or other conspiracies, I don’t care. I would take him over Kamala or Trump right now.
MVP
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Sorry but I can't take anybody seriously who thinks Trump is genuine and real and knows more about topics when discussing them. Unbelievable that you truly believe that.
Bucknutz
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That’s fine you don’t have to take me serious.
Trump is genuine and real:
View: https://x.com/JoeDanMedia/status/1814812770686103615
Kamala is not genuine:
View: https://x.com/RNCResearch/status/1815818534200697037
This is the same argument made with Romney and Obama…Romney was a robot, not genuine, stiff. Obama, I would have a beer with.
Kamala would just laugh nervously because she wouldn’t know what to say. Trump would just talk about anything without a filter.
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I've criticized her plenty. You can criticize all you want. It was just noted that we haven't seen any criticism of Trump from you. If anyone is being one sided in this discussion, it's you. Pick anything you don't like about Trump. Anything at all. I think we be curious to hear what you think on the matter.
Safetydan
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I'll freely admit that Trump has charisma. I'd never vote for his stupid ***. He's genuinely entertaining and funny until he's the president. Is he real? what does that even mean? Yeah I guess.
Kamala is cringe but IDGAF about that. I have big criticisms of Momala, Israel support, her record as a prosecutor, her not seeming to have strong ideological convictions vs what she thinks is politically advantageous. Not my first pick, but I don't get to pick because we don't live in a democracy. All of that aside:
Kamala > RFK Jr. > Trump.
I err on the side of defending her because I want her to win and I think more people should vote for her than the other guys.
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Trump isn't real (he lies more than anyone and is a notorious cheater)) and doesn't know what the **** he is talking about most of the time.
He doesn't even have charisma/charm. He is an annoying narcissist
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He doesn't even have charisma/charm. He is an annoying narcissist
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MVP
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What fish said. Annoying is too nice to describe it. He is pathologic, evil, dumb narcissist.
Bucknutz
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Objectively,
Things I have issues with:
Many issues with Staff decisions. (Steve Bannon etc)
No filter on topics or people. Sometimes it’s funny but most of the time it’s not or inappropriate. ( John McCain)
Some of his Businesses were scams. (School)
You have to be loyal to him no matter what, he is easily hurt if you say something critical with him. (Nikki Haley, Mark Esper)
Lies about things that don’t look great to him. (Size of his crowd at inauguration, hurricanes)
Nepotism
Government shutdowns
Impeachment’s
Issues with Election integrity
Things that people say that is wrong with him and his actions that I don't care about:
Multiple divorces
Cheating
Small vocabulary
**** hole countries
Lots of criticisms were hoax’s.
Stick flashlights up your ***
Very Fine people
Russiagate - his connections not what they found on other people on his team
Still don’t have a firm opinion on J6 and how much was his real influence. Transparency here is I really haven’t looked it up or researched it much. I really don’t believe much the media says on things, so before I can give you a full answer on this, I need a deeper understanding.
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I can help you on the last one.
If trump accepted his defeat does January 6th happen?
January 6th 100% has to be owned by trump.
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Sardines
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I don't have direct links to anything but I did listen to some of the hearings and I heard a summary of it with audio from the hearings and other direct statements from people involved.
I understand it wouldn't have been hard to convince me, but the info I got from all that was much more than I was expecting. For instance, they (people working close to Trump in the White House) were openly talking about a "big event" happening on Jan. 6th. In online chat groups with for the Proud Boys etc, they were hyping it up and many of the people in charge of those chat rooms and in charge of those groups had texts between them and people in the White House exposed. There was A LOT of coordination between these groups and the White House. There was testimony from people in the white house who were raising the alarm and saying that they needed to do something to cool this off because "someone might get hurt". Those pleas were strongly rejected, not that someone might get hurt, but the idea that they might want to cool things off, by most of the people involved in the WH. There were chats where specifics of what they were going to try to do were discussed.
Anyway, I know I was impressed by the info. Sorry that I don't have a bunch of links, I don't expect my post to change your mind or anyone else's, just wanted to say that the evidence exists and it's very strong. The White House was involved in planning Jan. 6th. It was not a spontaneous thing. It was planned and it was planned by the White House.