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[MTS]

Milton Friedman fathered the trickle-down economic policies of Reagan, which was built on the theory that if corporations make more money, they'll pass the additional profits down to their employees.

It caused the gap between the middle and upper class to widen dramatically.

 

[RandyForRubio]

Are we really going to ignore that Thriller called illegal immigrants cheap labor? And used that as a reason for why they shouldn’t be deported? And nobody else thinks that’s remotely racist?

 

[Rubashov]

Why do you say that?

Because everything he advocated has been debunked as ********. If his economic policies are so effective why is Chile not a modern developed advanced economy? The Chicago school after Pinochet coup was basically handed control of the Chilean economy, the consequences for Chileans was crushing poverty a complete suppression of human rights and every so often execution at the hands of their own government. Let alone the misery caused by neo-liberalism in the rest of the world. I could go on for hours but I haven't got the time

 

[fishonjazz]

Do you not remember what you even posted an hour ago?

I have posted a lot in the last hour. If you want to discuss it then there is a button where you can quote a post instead of going back to something after the discussion has shifted.

Cool thing is that if I posted it then there is a record of it in this very thread so there is still time for you to quote and discuss it!

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[fishonjazz]

Are we really going to ignore that Thriller called illegal immigrants cheap labor? And used that as a reason for why they shouldn’t be deported? And nobody else thinks that’s remotely racist?

Do you have data showing that illegal immigrants typically are paid better than most Americans?

I can see how you can think it's racist. At the same time it might be true (for reasons out of their control)

You could say illegal immigrants are cheap labor due to the fact that is hard to get high paying jobs when you are not a legal citizen, not because of their race but because the system is designed to not give high paying jobs to people without citizenship. I don't think that's racist.
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[Rubashov]

Milton Friedman fathered the trickle-down economic policies of Reagan, which was built on the theory that if corporations make more money, they'll pass the additional profits down to their employees.

It caused the gap between the middle and upper class to widen dramatically.

He's not the father that economic policy, its goes all the way back to Adam Smith, Friedman's contribution is to keep these ideas alive after they were abandoned during the great depression.

 

[MTS]

He's not the father that economic policy, its goes all the way back to Adam Smith, Friedman's contribution is to keep these ideas alive after they were abandoned during the great depression.

Right, I could've worded that better. I more meant to say he was the driver of Reaganomics.

 

[RandyForRubio]

Do you have data showing that illegal immigrants typically are paid better than most Americans?

I can see how you can think it's racist. At the same time it might be true (for reasons out of their control)

You could say illegal immigrants are cheap labor due to the fact that is hard to get high paying jobs when you are not a legal citizen, not because of their race but because the system is designed to not give high paying jobs to people without citizenship. I don't think that's racist.
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Saying that they shouldn’t leave because they’re cheap labor is racist.

 

[Bucknutz]

Because everything he advocated has been debunked as ********. If his economic policies are so effective why is Chile not a modern developed advanced economy? The Chicago school after Pinochet coup was basically handed control of the Chilean economy, the consequences for Chileans was crushing poverty a complete suppression of human rights and every so often execution at the hands of their own government. Let alone the misery caused by neo-liberalism in the rest of the world. I could go on for hours but I haven't got the time

Interesting...markets do work.

"In the end, the Chilean [economy] did quite well, didn't it?"

MILTON FRIEDMAN: "Oh, very well. Extremely well. The Chilean economy did very well, but more important, in the end the central government, the military junta, was replaced by a democratic society. So the really important thing about the Chilean business is that free markets did work their way in bringing about a free society."

 

[RandyForRubio]

Do you have data showing that illegal immigrants typically are paid better than most Americans?

I can see how you can think it's racist. At the same time it might be true (for reasons out of their control)

You could say illegal immigrants are cheap labor due to the fact that is hard to get high paying jobs when you are not a legal citizen, not because of their race but because the system is designed to not give high paying jobs to people without citizenship. I don't think that's racist.
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I’ll put it this way Fish.

If Trump had said that, half this board including Thriller would be in hysterics.

 

[Rubashov]

Right, I could've worded that better. I more meant to say he was the driver of Reaganomics.

The real genius of Friedman is that he managed to unravel the post war economic boom and post war society and allowed for the transfer the wealth that had flowed into the hands of the middle and working classes back to the elites.

 

[Rubashov]

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Interesting...markets do work.

No not really, Chile benefitted from the most favourable conditions from the US. Also what share of that GDP do Chileans actually have themselves how much is expatriated to the American corporations that own their economy? Also the majority of that economic growth is after the end of the dictatorship and return to democracy. Also from a moral standpoint do a quarter million people need to die for the market to work?