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You are assuming a very simplistic model of transactions here. Folks having more cash in a general sense does not mean prices go up as a result if the cash is equated out from supply elsewhere. Hence my earlier comments regarding a balanced budget and making sure corporations and the wealthy actually pay taxes.
Idk man. I think that if everyone at the bottom was given raises (the cheap labor vanishes with the immigrants being deported or stopped from coming in) then more spending would happen and more goods would be purchased and businesses would see an opportunity to make more money and therefore raise prices.

I'm not super knowledgeable on this stuff but my common sense and logic are pretty strong suits of mine and they are telling me this would happen. Definitely could be wrong though.

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Idk man. I think that if everyone at the bottom was given raises (the cheap labor vanishes with the immigrants being deported or stopped from coming in) then more spending would happen and more goods would be purchased and businesses would see an opportunity to make more money and therefore raise prices.

I'm not super knowledgeable on this stuff but my common sense and logic are pretty strong suits of mine and they are telling me this would happen. Definitely could be wrong though.

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Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if wages went up but spending didn't even increase that prices would still increase. Businesses would recognize the wage increases and figure its a great opportunity to raise prices and just do it anyway. Kind of like when the minimum wage increased in california so now fast food workers were making more money we quickly saw the price of fast food go up and I dont think those fast food workers started spending like crazy they probably simply started to be able to pay some bills.
 
Idk man. I think that if everyone at the bottom was given raises (the cheap labor vanishes with the immigrants being deported or stopped from coming in) then more spending would happen and more goods would be purchased and businesses would see an opportunity to make more money and therefore raise prices.

I'm not super knowledgeable on this stuff but my common sense and logic are pretty strong suits of mine and they are telling me this would happen. Definitely could be wrong though.

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You aren't necessarily wrong. Muscle labor goes where muscle labor is cheapest. That said, it's a bit more complicated due to legal issues and the international market. There is a reason why the US, some Asian, and European markets maintain a certain GDP and average income despite economic drivers changing from agricultural to industrial to service-based. That said, certain factors come into play such as the amount of currency involved and demand for that supply. We're seeing that now where housing prices are starting to fall in certain areas and mortgage rates are dropping without the Fed dropping rates. It's because no one was buying homes. The supply can outstrip demand, but the demand will never outstrip the supply (in general) if folks can't buy up that supply.

That said, the powers that be which govern a society need a portion of that pie to make society function. How much of that supply the government gets matters a great deal because they are at the front of line and are paying for the bar mitzvah, which leaves only so much for the rest of the fam. That said, it's something of a misnomer to say that cutting taxes in general spikes an economy. Short term shot, yes, but the government still has its own bills to pay and, trust me, they will make due on those bills. What matters is a rational tax structure and spending policies. This is why the 90s were such a boom time without a subsequent depression to follow. Because, despite all the dysfunction in the WH and potshotting by Republicans and Democrats, there was a balanced budget and things were smooth economically speaking. So no one cared if Billy-boy got a hummer or not.

All that aside, supply and demand have more factors than just product and wants.
 
It feels like we have a culture in america currently that is at an all time high for greed while also at an all time low for caring for others and doing for others.

Having trump be the leader of the country is a really bad way to get that culture to shift. Of that im certain. He is about as money/greed driven as anyone I have ever seen and cares less for others than about anyone I have ever seen.
 
Ah but if the illegal immigrants are keeping wages down then they are also keeping prices down.
Well this is incorrect. Let’s take affordable housing for example (I keep bringing this up). With the massive influx of illegal immigrants now there is a shortage of houses available for low earning citizens. When there is a shortage an owner who puts their house for rent, now receives a 100 applicants. What does the owner due, well he realizes that he listed his house too low and adjusts it upwards. The same way if the homeowner gets 0 applicants, he will then adjust the property downward.

It's a catch 22. If workers make more money then they can spend (demand up and supply down is the result) more money and prices go up.

Now when there are less low skilled citizens, then companies will have to compete to give them more money to fill their positions. Those low skilled citizens can now get in affordable housing easier with less competition. Then these citizens will have more disposable income.

Obviously it’s a bit more complex but this simple idea explains the concept I’m trying to get across.
 
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It feels like we have a culture in america currently that is at an all time high for greed while also at an all time low for caring for others and doing for others.

Having trump be the leader of the country is a really bad way to get that culture to shift. Of that im certain. He is about as money/greed driven as anyone I have ever seen and cares less for others than about anyone I have ever seen.
Here is that old guy talking again, about this:

View: https://x.com/ian_mckelvey/status/1824510333915963748?s=46&t=BMMZjW7vq0_zwnmLDjNTgQ
 
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Can you summarize the point being made? (i hate watching videos and much prefer reading)
What person/country is not built on greed. Is economic or political more virtuous. Where are these angels in the world that can build a society perfectly?

Took me 2 mins to write this, just as much time as the video. Plus he does it with more detail and elegance.
 
I saw harris propose something that didn't get much attention or discussion: New laws to deter corporations from buying up single-family homes and raising rents. What do people think of this?
 
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