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Safetydan said:
I'm happy for you bro. I know people like you who are doing well and I know many who, unfortunately, were not on the boat that left the harbor. They make more than you and either are extremely house-poor or resigned to renting (also very expensive) until things get better. If you weren't in a good position to buy a house from 2010 to 2018 you're kind of screwed.

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Wage Stagnation in Nine Charts

Our country has suffered from rising income inequality and chronically slow growth in the living standards of low- and moderate-income Americans. This disappointing living-standards growth—which was in fact caused by rising income inequality—preceded the Great Recession and continues to this...
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I do agree about the housing thing.
I have seen one candidate propose a plan to help with housing. Sadly there isn't much that can be done. Houses are selling as fast as they are built. Rentals are scooped up right when one gets vacated.
Those selling and renting homes aren't going to drop the prices if people will pay what they are paying.


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Safetydan said:
I thought you were going to use your browser??!? WTF
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It's just way less convenient and slower than the app.

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Rubashov said:
Journalist and academic Stan Grant has taken shots at “political elites” in the United States, as well as coverage of the US election, in a speech made at a social cohesion conference in western Sydney.

The former host of ABC’s Q+A told attendees that neither Donald Trump or Kamala Harris were the answer to the “existential crisis of America” and then made reference to Robin Hood:


Stan Grant in 2023.

Stan Grant in 2023. Photograph: Dan Himbrechts/AAP
He said coverage of the election had been “abominable” in that “every lie” and “every hatred” has been “amplified.” He said the media has only been interested in the outrage and star power of the campaigns, and less so the people “holding that broken country together”.
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he's a complex character for sure but i think in this instance he's absolutely nailed it
 
Safetydan said:
This is pure copium. People's lives are ****** despite the media telling them it's going well. Conditions have progressively gotten worse for decades. I think you need to get off of your current media diet.



Economic insecurity driving reactionary sentiment has been a material reality forever. Poor working-class people do make up a huge chunk of Trump voters. I think that's been pretty obvious. IIRC, the number of working-class people moving to the republican party has been trending upward since Obama. I wonder why that is? You and I can say that they're voting against their interests, which is true. I blame the party that is supposedly on their side for allowing the party that doesn't represent their interests at all to win them over. That's crazy.
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I’m going off evidence. This is literally my job, history and political science has been my career for almost twenty years and what you’re regurgitating are 2016 talking pts that have been refuted For years now. Yes yes, blaming globalism, immigrants, poverty, etc for American democracy de-stabilizing and voting for Trump just doesn’t have any evidence to support it. Authoritarian personality disorder and racism do. If you look at the evidence people who vote for Trump are overwhelmingly motivated by race and gender. And those are disproportionately being found among the (bored) non-college educated upper (white) middle class.

Again, you haven’t refuted my central pt:

“If the poverty aka the poor sweet innocent “forgotten man” who’s living better than any prior generation is really so angry with his lot in life, why aren’t we seeing worker revolutions across the world?” Instead, these right wing authoritarian movements are sprouting among the much better off who share cultural and racial grievances for a past that never existed. You see this in Brexit, Le pene’s France, Orban’s Hungary, Justice party in Poland, and Italy. It’s not the ****ing economics, it’s the racism. It’s the culture. It’s the social hierarchy folks who are angry that in the 21st century, their privilege is now being shared amongst those they deem to be lower class than they.

I suggest you get off your current media diet and read something scholarly for a change. You know, involving political scientists instead of social media personalities? Something that like actually includes exit polls?
 
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Safetydan said:
I can and I do. Vehemently so.

Progressive policies surveying well when uncoupled from the party allegedly espousing them is a messaging disaster. They cozy up to Republicans and war criminals just because they're anti-trump rather than put up the necessary fight required to get people enthusiastic about their vision for America. People like Dick Cheney should be considered antithetical to that vision, because they are. Just as a microcosm, The only thing Harris voters here are enthusiastic about on this board is enthusiasm for voting against Trump.

The fact that it's close at all on economics when DJT is proposing wild **** like mass tariffs and zero income tax is an indictment on the Harris campaign. I refuse to give flowers out when they end up losing to the worst candidate twice in three elections. If they manage to scrape by, is that a win? I don't think so. It's an embarrassment.
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Alrighty then. lol you sound like one of those too online Bernie bros who wishcast a progressive utopia in a Harris loss and a Trump win. Except, progressive utopias have never displaced a fascist dictatorship.
 
This was at Harris’s rally today in DC. Anyone else have footage? How many police officers were killed? How many security officers were beaten with American flags and bear spray? How many pipe bombs were left by Republican offices? was there any **** smeared on the walls? Did anyone try and kill mitt Romney? Where’s the democratic moose shaman or whatever that guy was?


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