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Kanter 30 Pts and 16 Rebs... And Now the Rest of the Story...

And they beat ATL, TOR, and PHX.

Jazz have lost to DAL, GSW, POR, WSH, but also beat SAS, MEM, and HOU. Point is, your post didn't really prove or disprove anything.

Jazz last played Dal before the Kanter trade. Hayward and Hood missed the Blazers game.
 
Their record is better since getting Kanter than it was before. Fact. They also lost key players like Durant (again), Ibaka, Roberson, and Adams (but he's come back) and they've still amassed a winning record in his tenure. It has been the Westbrook and Kanter show with Morrow and Waiters having a special game here and there.

Mcgary and Adams have been legit too. Point is, Enes has been a positive for them. Everyone can be pissed and say he's scum and a cancer, but he's found a fit there. A fit that is going to get better when the better defenders come back.

He's a great player. Likely to get even better. Had some attitude and maturity issues, not a good defender but playing with the right combo big that's fine. I wish he would have accepted a lesser role here but the Jazz made their choice with Rudy and it was the right one. Enes should have kept his yap shut.


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And they beat ATL, TOR, and PHX.

Jazz have lost to DAL, GSW, POR, WSH, but also beat SAS, MEM, and HOU. Point is, your post didn't really prove or disprove anything.

Yikes...Kanter didn't play against Atlanta, and Toronto and Phoenix have been terrible since the all-star break (i.e. those last two aren't quality wins).

I didn't realize he didn't play vs ATL.

But if you say PHX and TOR aren't the same since the break, then you must admit that the Spurs win for us came during a four game post-break slide. And Memphis was w/o Z-Bo when they played us. Guess that one doesn't count either, huh? And The Houston game was a back-to back where they played Portland to the wire, is that one a flush? Your line of reasoning gets you in as much trouble.

I still stand behind what I said. His post was inaccurate and didn't prove anything.
 
He's a great player. Likely to get even better. Had some attitude and maturity issues, not a good defender but playing with the right combo big that's fine. I wish he would have accepted a lesser role here but the Jazz made their choice with Rudy and it was the right one. Enes should have kept his yap shut.


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I'm glad he did what he did at this point. Had he kept his mouth shut, we probably would have kept him until the end of year. He would have gotten an offer that the Jazz wouldn't (and shouldn't) have matched and we would have gotten nothing for him. For all the comments about us not getting anything in the trade, it is certainly better than letting him go for nothing.

Kanter will undoubtedly get paid this offseason. I'm not convinced it will be a max deal, but it only takes one team like Charlotte to open their wallet to him, so it might happen.

He will be considered a great player because news reporting always skews in favor of offense. But his numbers will suffer unless he finds his way to a bad team that can afford to have him be their #1 or #2 option. The OKC front office better be watching that tape closely before deciding whether to sign him to a huge deal.

I suspect he will end up bouncing around the league like Al Jefferson has. Teams will sign him in the hope that their team defense can make up for his defensive deficiencies, but then ultimately trade him when they realize they can't afford to keep him in the starting lineup.

I may be wrong, but this is what I see happening...
 
Strength of schedule matters, too.


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Yes it does, and by comparison we are all very excited about what the Jazz have done on an easy schedule since the break, aren't we? We've played the Lakers twice, Min twice. Played Boston, Philly, Brooklyn, New York, Detorit, Denver, and Charlotte. We also played the Bucks who have been bad since getting rid of Knight, played the Spurs during a slump after the break, Memphis without Z-Bo, and Portland who's been sliding since the break. Our schedule has been dramatically easier this stretch of the season as well.
 
I think OKC should pay him big. IBaka will make up for a lot of Kanters defensive shortcomings. A starting 5 of Kanter, IBaka, Durant, Westbrook, and Waiters/Lamb is dangerous. OKC made some smart trades this season.


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I think OKC should pay him big. IBaka will make up for a lot of Kanters defensive shortcomings. A starting 5 of Kanter, IBaka, Durant, Westbrook, and Waiters/Lamb is dangerous. OKC made some smart trades this season.


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I'd be thrilled if OKC paid him big. Limit their future and create a rival. Snyder will send his guards right at Kanter every time they play OKC.
 
I think OKC should pay him big. IBaka will make up for a lot of Kanters defensive shortcomings. A starting 5 of Kanter, IBaka, Durant, Westbrook, and Waiters/Lamb is dangerous. OKC made some smart trades this season.


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The fact that Durant and Ibaka haven't even played with Kanter will definitely make the free agency decision with Kanter interesting. How much are the Thunder willing to pay on the unproven assumption that Ibaka can adequately cover Kanter's defensive shortcomings?
 
Why are we still talking about Kanter?

I think for the most part, Jazz fans have an inferiority complex. Many of yous act like you were just broken up with and now you're trying to rationalize everything.

Kanter is gone, our team has improved. Move on.


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