Kanter and Nike Hoop Summit History

[gregbroncs]

This is not accurate. I listed ALL world team guys who scored 15 plus and had great games in summit. Nearly all of them were busts. That shows having a great game at summit alone for worlds team does not mean you are deserving a top 3 pick. That means you can't just look at this game and make this conclusion. You need to look at other serious games. And in case of Kanter there is nothing to look at. The game, which I just proved shows nothing, is all we got. And based on that game Kanter is top 3? Do you see the point now?

But you are claiming that it is the only thing he's being judged on. This is far to simplistic. Not to mention wrong. You have been shown by a few poster's showing articles comparing him to a guy that was considered a great prospect.

He was a 1st round pick before that game and became a lottery pick after that game. If those player's were not 1st round talent then they are not in the same conversation.

Okay how about I list all of the american players that were 1st round busts picked in the top 10? It would show that Irving, Williams and Knight are every bit the risk that Kanter is.

 

[Borat]

does anyone realize that most of these players including parker made 20 pts, and 34 is 14 more than 20 which is a lot higher.
I dont say one game makes u a great player but at least it should prove u have high potential
Its a simple assessment but this is another simple assessment, Nowitzki scored 33, Kanter 34, so Kanter will be better player than Nowitzki.
I think my argument is less weak than implying Kanter will be one of those players in the list whom we dont even know where they r now.

And Jacobsen probably made that number against a weak group of internationals that year.,lets accept that american high school players (both individually and as a team_) is overwhelming to internationals every year. So having 34 pts against players like Sullinger, Barnes, Irving.. while having a couple of injections before the game due to illness, is not that bad
I still dont say that its enough to play one game to prove potential, but if u search his career stats, u will see its not the only reason he is considered to be a top 5 pick. He has really good numbers in youth european championships.
He played with Valanciunas like a cat plays with mouse

There are several youth championships every year, and bunch of MVPs you've never heard of. Someone you may have heard of was Koufos, and he had even better numbers than Kanter. This entire evidence amounts to so little. I actually think a pick-up game PKM was talking about where Kanter player well against Nazr is worth more than all the other evidence. And you know how much stock you can put in a pick-up game.

 

[Borat]

The u18 euro

I was not talking about juniors. Rubios accomplishments were at senior level. He was a starter for a top senior club in Spain, a far better League than Turkey, where Kanter was not even a part of rotation on a crappy team. I trust you see the huge difference here.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Borat: If your point is Kanter is a risk, then I say I agree, no argument. However, I disagree that there's only tiny evidence that he's lower risk than you seem to want him to be. There's plenty of reasons why every mock draft has him listed so highly. No guarantee, but he's not listed there on just a hunch.

 

[Borat]

But you are claiming that it is the only thing he's being judged on. This is far to simplistic. Not to mention wrong. You have been shown by a few poster's showing articles comparing him to a guy that was considered a great prospect.

For the last time, Rubio's accomplishments were at senior level, in the top League in Europe. Kanter did not even play in a rotation of a far inferior League. How can you compare the two?

 

[gregbroncs]

For the last time, Rubio's accomplishments were at senior level, in the top League in Europe. Kanter did not even play in a rotation of a far inferior League. How can you compare the two?

I didn't the people who wrote those articles did.

 

[Dr. Jones]

I didn't the people who wrote those articles did.

I chuckled.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

I showed you hard stats of nearly all the people from the worlds team who did well in that game turned out to be busts (not just unworthy of top 3, but flat out not worthy of NBA), and 1 elite player. You also know Kanter has no other accomplishments that would justify high pick. The conclusion I feel is apparent. I am not sure about Rubio comparison. Last I checked Rubio played great in the best league in Europe, and is a starter for the best Euro team at young age. Kanter was not even a part of rotation in a poor Euro League sr team. There is enormous difference there.

did you not read any of my posts..... For the love of all things pure in a harsh harsh world tsp throwing these worthless scrubs in my face. It doesn't prove any of your posts!!! For the last time.... Because I'm not going to repeat myself again! Of all those players you listed only four were considered by scouts to be good first round talent. 75% of the four are decent to HOF status.

 

[Dr. Jones]

For the last time

So you're saying you give? jk, bro .. got no prob with your arguments

 

[sepanol]

There are several youth championships every year, and bunch of MVPs you've never heard of. Someone you may have heard of was Koufos, and he had even better numbers than Kanter. This entire evidence amounts to so little. I actually think a pick-up game PKM was talking about where Kanter player well against Nazr is worth more than all the other evidence. And you know how much stock you can put in a pick-up game.

but the u18, u16 european championships are the highest level of competition for internationals at that age, so excluding any american player, he proved he is one of the best at that age in the world

 

[Borat]

but the u18, u16 european championships are the highest level of competition for internationals at that age, so excluding any american player, he proved he is one of the best at that age in the world

Yes, like Koufos and like a few players every year, who win junior Euro MVP, who will never make it to NBA. Names you never heard of. Junior Euro tourneys are jr euro tourneys. This is not NCAA nor senior Euro League.

 

[Dr. Jones]

but the u18, u16 european championships are the highest level of competition for internationals at that age, so excluding any american player, he proved he is one of the best at that age in the world

And then proved it against the Americans in the Hoops Summit.
Look, I know it's one game (and I take that into consideration), but he put those numbers up playing against Terrence Jones, Jared Sullinger, Patric Young, Harrison Barnes, etc. Can't ignore it either. Hard to fluke your way to huge numbers against competition like that.