You can sift through data yourself, or you can trust the conclusion DX made on this: "Enes Kanter didn't stand out in any of the metrics covered in the combine, but didn't finish in the bottom-5 of any of them either. He measured taller than expected, which is a plus, even if he's only in the middle-of-the-pack athletically."
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You can sift through data yourself, or you can trust the conclusion DX made on this: "Enes Kanter didn't stand out in any of the metrics covered in the combine, but didn't finish in the bottom-5 of any of them either. He measured taller than expected, which is a plus, even if he's only in the middle-of-the-pack athletically."
We agreed to use term "nearly entire year" vs entire eyar, because he did manage to get some practice time during appeal. And that's exactly the term I used.
Did he also win a game of horse in the gym that PKM witnessed, which we forgot to add to his resume?
OK, I sifted through the data a bit more myself. If I counted correctly, of the players 6'10" and taller, I found 4 rated ahead of Kanter and 5 rated below. In other words, Kanter is right in the middle of the pack athletically for PF/C type players. So, DraftExpress is correct in calling him "middle of the pack". But you are very misleading in calling him 34th out of 53.
Do you think anyone is going to draft him without running him through their own workout?
jazzrule
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Good question. I will compare the Athletic Testing Composite Ranking with two other big men we're considering.
Kanter ranked 34th, Chris Singleton ranked 15th and Derrick Williams ranked 17th.
For fun lets compare Williams with Kanter straight up.
Enes Kanter
Height Wt. Wing Span No Step Vert. Max. Vert. Max. Vert. Reach Bench Agility Sprint
6’11 1/4in. 259 7’ 1 1/2 in. 26.0 in. 32 ½ in. 11’10 in. 14 11.30 3.26
Derrick Williams (College play has shown around the basket he is an explosive leaper) They say that is how gets his shot off against bigger players.
Height Wt. Wing Span No Step Vert. Max Vert. Max Vert. Reach Bench Agility Sprint
6’ 8 3/4 in. 248 7’ 1 1/2 in. 29.0 34 1/2in. 11’ 10 1/2 in. 19 11.03 3.23
Wing Span tied.
No step vertical Williams wins
Max vertical Williams wins
Bench Press Williams wins
Max vertical reach Williams wins
Agility Williams wins
Sprint Williams wins
Height and fitness Kanter wins to be fair. When and if Williams gets in really good shape he should beat Kanter even worse in the test results.
Well, if Knight becomes Deron or Paul caliber, we are certainly going to regret not taking him. I just feel, based on the players resumes, that chances of Knight being top PG, like Deron, are a lot greater than Kanter becoming someone like Kevin Love.
How can you consider Singleton and Williams to be big men?? Williams MAY be able to play PF, but has said he wants to play SF. And with a standing reach of only 8' 7.5", I don't think Singleton has a prayer at playing PF. And clearly neither can play center, which Kanter almost certainly will be able to do.
BENTLEY
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This. Kanter plays a more premium position.
By the way, I am by no means a Kanter homer. I have no idea how he will be in the NBA. If the Jazz draft him I hope they first obtain a lot more info on him than I have seen. I only entered into this discussion due to the questionable logic employed by the anti-Kanter camp.
Edit: And I'm also on the record as having said that Williams would be my dream pick in the draft.
Edit: And I'm also on the record as having said that Williams would be my dream pick in the draft.
They might if he starts falling. People will still take a chance even if they didn't see him go one on one against empty basket.