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So tell me where those 1 in 4 stats come from and how do you know they are reliable. You have a source? I would say that maybe there are 1 in 4 women who are attractive enough to excite desire in men but not all men are going to harass them. Unless maybe you are a mentally-ill person like Cosby or Jerry Sandusky, and the latter didn't like women.
Quit ****ing talking
 
People do get falsely accused.

That happens with every type of thing, not just this. People get falsely accused of theft by eye witness at a similar rate to falsely accused of sexual assault. But we generally believe the eye witness if theft and people are convicted based on that eye witness all the time. But for some reason we test this differently.

No one needs to be worried about being falsely accused of sexual assault that doesn't do it. The number of times that happens is very small and very rare and usually the truth comes out eventually.

In the other hand millions of women are being sexually assaulted and most of those men are getting away with it and the women are getting no justice. It's a huge huge problem.

It's time to start believing women. History and evidence is on their side in regards to this as a whole.

I would rather one guy get falsely accused and lose a job. Which isn't that big of a deal. If that makes millions of women stop getting assaulted.
 
Lol, the dude is talking about English common law like he understands his things work.

It is literally because of the current social contract that we have at will employment. Keillor can leave a job any time, and be fired any time. This isn't a ****ing courtroom.
This is irrelevant to the discussion. It's more about what Keillor actually did and whether it was just in firing him. I would grant that there is one legit accusation but I believe the others are questionable, and using stats that are not specific to the case as facts against him, is disingenuous and don't prove anything and only whip up emotion against him.
 
People do get falsely accused.

That happens with every type of thing, not just this. People get falsely accused of theft by eye witness at a similar rate to falsely accused of sexual assault. But we generally believe the eye witness if theft and people are convicted based on that eye witness all the time. But for some reason we test this differently.

No one needs to be worried about being falsely accused of sexual assault that doesn't do it. The number of times that happens is very small and very rare and usually the truth comes out eventually.

In the other hand millions of women are being sexually assaulted and most of those men are getting away with it and the women are getting no justice. It's a huge huge problem.

It's time to start believing women. History and evidence is on their side in regards to this as a whole.

I would rather one guy get falsely accused and lose a job. Which isn't that big of a deal. If that makes millions of women stop getting assaulted.
We aren't treating this differently. In the past, we did, but now the pendulum has swing in the opposite direction. Many people who are accused by the MeToo movement are assumed to be guilty without recourse to defend themselves.
 
People do get falsely accused.

That happens with every type of thing, not just this. People get falsely accused of theft by eye witness at a similar rate to falsely accused of sexual assault. But we generally believe the eye witness if theft and people are convicted based on that eye witness all the time. But for some reason we test this differently.

No one needs to be worried about being falsely accused of sexual assault that doesn't do it. The number of times that happens is very small and very rare and usually the truth comes out eventually.

In the other hand millions of women are being sexually assaulted and most of those men are getting away with it and the women are getting no justice. It's a huge huge problem.

It's time to start believing women. History and evidence is on their side in regards to this as a whole.

I would rather one guy get falsely accused and lose a job. Which isn't that big of a deal. If that makes millions of women stop getting assaulted.
Great post.

This in particular bears repeating:

That happens with every type of thing, not just this. People get falsely accused of theft by eye witness at a similar rate to falsely accused of sexual assault. But we generally believe the eye witness if theft and people are convicted based on that eye witness all the time. But for some reason we test this differently.
 
So tell me where those 1 in 4 stats come from and how do you know they are reliable. You have a source? I would say that maybe there are 1 in 4 women who are attractive enough to excite desire in men but not all men are going to harass them. Unless maybe you are a mentally-ill person like Cosby or Jerry Sandusky, and the latter didn't like women.
Women aren't harassed just because of their looks. You really need to do some research on this subject. You are very uneducated on this.

Generally it has more to do with power over someone than being turned on and unable to control themselves.
 
People do get falsely accused.

That happens with every type of thing, not just this. People get falsely accused of theft by eye witness at a similar rate to falsely accused of sexual assault. But we generally believe the eye witness if theft and people are convicted based on that eye witness all the time. But for some reason we test this differently.

No one needs to be worried about being falsely accused of sexual assault that doesn't do it. The number of times that happens is very small and very rare and usually the truth comes out eventually.

In the other hand millions of women are being sexually assaulted and most of those men are getting away with it and the women are getting no justice. It's a huge huge problem.

It's time to start believing women. History and evidence is on their side in regards to this as a whole.

I would rather one guy get falsely accused and lose a job. Which isn't that big of a deal. If that makes millions of women stop getting assaulted.

Like maybe this guy meant well and didn’t read the room... but you have workplace romances and write email love letters and one of the consequences is you get canned.Joke around about this stuff and you get canned... I don’t care if it happens all the time or is just a joke... you get to lose your job if it is inappropriate and someone is uncomfortable. Go to the bar or the internet to find a date... leave it out of the workplace unless you are willing to lose your job.
 
Quit ****ing talking
Who are you to say ... you have something intelligent to say? Listen, I've said my piece and I'll let the rest of you to hash it out but don't attack me. This is my opinion and I think I have defended it to the best of my ability. If you want to disagree that's your prerogative and right in a democratic society, and my right to give my opinion. I am not a hater of women; I'm a hater of untruth and injustice.
 
This is irrelevant to the discussion. It's more about what Keillor actually did and whether it was just in firing him. I would grant that there is one legit accusation but I believe the others are questionable, and using stats that are not specific to the case as facts against him, is disingenuous and don't prove anything and only whip up emotion against him.
No.

If the company wanted to fire him for the allegations, they have every right.
 
Who are you to say ... you have something intelligent to say? Listen, I've said my piece and I'll let the rest of you to hash it out but don't attack me. This is my opinion and I think I have defended it to the best of my ability. If you want to disagree that's your prerogative and right in a democratic society, and my right to give my opinion. I am not a hater of women; I'm a hater of untruth and injustice.
You also have a horrible opinion. And you have proven yourself to be a drama queen in the past, as well as harassing other members of the board in their real lives.
 
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