idestroyedthetoilet
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Nothing better than a dumb mysoginist amiright?
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Nothing better than a dumb mysoginist amiright?
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You think women crave sex more than men? Maybe there are some, especially after menopause. But they're usually not as aggressive. Let's face women are from Venus and Men are from Mars, so that's why they generally don't see eye-to-eye on this issue. Now watch the crazies jump on me for that statement.
Holy ****ing ****...
labido is not a men = high, women = low. That is so far from how that works.
Just as a stupid story, a place I used to work where there was tons of downtime but I had to be in a place with very little in the way of distractions had PCs and a very restrictive network. I could basically read Bloomberg news or WebMD. I think there were one or two other non-blocked sites, but it was VERY restricted. So I found on WebMD a forum for all sorts of different topics, like this condition or that condition or whatever other medical thing. One of them was "Sex and Relationships" which is where I spent most of my reading time. People posted about their sex and relationship issues. MANY MANY MANY threads were about mismatched labidos, generally within the context of established relationships. Almost no relationship is made up of two people with the exact same labido, and one of the bits of wisdom I picked up is that in many cases the person in the relationship with the lower labido has a power advnatage based on that. Basically the person with the lower labido controls access to sex for the other partner. Anyway, long story short, about half the posts from women on the topic was that they wanted sex much more often than their husband, the other was that their husband pestered them for sex constantly when they didn't feel like having sex.
The way desire to have sex manifests itself can vary from person to person, man or woman, relationship to relationship. Your 1950s notion of men always want sex and women sometimes begrudgingly give it to them is just flat out false. Just plan *** ****ing false. You have made yourself into an even bigger fool than you have been for years and years. Bravo.
To the degree we have been able to measure this, the measurements say otherwise.
Then stop. You are spewing ignorance, based on a misunderstanding of the nature of harassment, its prevalence, any actual punishment that happens (usually temporary), and the difficulty women have with being believed.
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b_line
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Stop posting and take some time to read some books. You've got some extremely toxic opinions. You need to spend your time to fix that rather than posting on here.
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LOL ... I spend a lot of time reading books, B_Line. I have a graduate degree in English and used to teach it. I did and still do a lot of reading. It may be toxic to you, but that's a bit arrogant of you to tell me I need to read more. Many posters here are very poor readers, especially the ones who spew venom and resort to name-calling when they have nothing of substance to say. They only read what they want to hear and jump to false conclusions. I fully agree that women are often sexually harassed. I just think you need to be more discriminating about who to believe, especially when it involves money and politics, and that is based on a deep reading of politics and American political history. How much do you know and have read about McCarthyism and what took place in the U.S. during the 1950s?
Have you ever read Norman Mailer's, The Prisoner of Sex? Though written nearly 50 years ago -- I read it in the 1970s -- it is a probing analysis of women's liberation that still resonates today.
Red
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In the United States, women were granted the right to vote less then 100 years ago. Think about that. Less then 100 years ago. For many decades preceding the passage of the 19th amendment women suffragists campaigned for this most basic right. The #MeToo movement can be seen as part of a long term movement representing the empowerment of women in society. It isn't anything to be afraid of at all. They deserved the right to vote. They deserved equal pay for equal work. They deserve the right to be free from sexual harrassment. And we're bound to have a woman president one day. All part of a long term process, and not something that need throw fear into the hearts of men.
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I don't even know what to say. I'm having an anxiety attack from reading this thread.
I have yet to meet a woman who has not been sexually harassed in her lifetime, and far too many have experienced much worse. I've been testing the 1-in-4 theory, and so far every group of women I have been in where we are free to talk about these issues has had at least 1-in-4 that have been raped. So far 4-in-4 have been sexually harassed in many ways and in many incidences. Some of them don't recognize it until it is explained to them because they have been so conditioned to accept it as their lot in life and as the way that men treat women.
When I first asked my 80-year-old mother about her experiences, she denied it had ever been an issue in her life. As we continued our conversation and I gave her examples of other women, she realized that she had dealt with many episodes of it. Some of you may not be comfortable knowing that women are finally finding their voice and are realizing that they do not have to accept the bad behavior of many men. Too bad.
I have yet to meet a woman who has not been sexually harassed in her lifetime, and far too many have experienced much worse. I've been testing the 1-in-4 theory, and so far every group of women I have been in where we are free to talk about these issues has had at least 1-in-4 that have been raped. So far 4-in-4 have been sexually harassed in many ways and in many incidences. Some of them don't recognize it until it is explained to them because they have been so conditioned to accept it as their lot in life and as the way that men treat women.
When I first asked my 80-year-old mother about her experiences, she denied it had ever been an issue in her life. As we continued our conversation and I gave her examples of other women, she realized that she had dealt with many episodes of it. Some of you may not be comfortable knowing that women are finally finding their voice and are realizing that they do not have to accept the bad behavior of many men. Too bad.
Zombie
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It seems to me a lot of people have a hard time telling the difference between the way things were and the way things ought to be.
People think that because you didn't hear about this issue a few decades ago it didn't exist, and we are only earing about them today because of special interest groups or SJWs run amok trying to be divisive.
It's similar to how black lives matter is treated by certain contingencies. It's easier for these people to find reasons to dismiss these movements than to take what they are saying seriously, because that might require some introspection on their part.
People think that because you didn't hear about this issue a few decades ago it didn't exist, and we are only earing about them today because of special interest groups or SJWs run amok trying to be divisive.
It's similar to how black lives matter is treated by certain contingencies. It's easier for these people to find reasons to dismiss these movements than to take what they are saying seriously, because that might require some introspection on their part.
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But you did get my point about using MeToo to advance a political agenda, personal aggrandizement or character assassination? I still think there is a disconnect in what men and women believe to be sexual harassment, which is part of the problem. I found the following comment to be at the heart of the problem--some women do not recognize it either:
In other words, we all need to be better educated about this issue. What should we consider sexual harassment? Tell us in your own words. I'd like to know.