This is all about money, if AK was smart and really wants to stay in Utah he needs to be knocking on Kevin O'C's door and asking to sign a new deal. I think we're better keeping him and would sign him to a new 3 year deal with 8, 8.5 and 9... We'd get the money relief we need for this year and everyone's happy. Plus AK gets two more years. If he sticks to the 17plus mil for this year he'll be traded, now or later doesn't matter. Ball is in AK's court IMO.
Kirelenko in Trade talks!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Twin Towers
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You can't restructure your contract in the NBA. This isn't the NFL.
If AK stays, we still need to cut salary. We can't expect the Jazz to pay out $20 mil in LT this year. No way.
Who do you cut instead? Who can actually be moved realistically?
Who do you cut instead? Who can actually be moved realistically?
Twin Towers
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where is everyone getting this 20 Million or 18 Million in luxury tax. We are only like 2 Million over right now? or something similar
We're 6 mil over the LT not including Elson and Watson's salary. So I'm guessing we'll be around 9 or 10 million over with those 2. Thats 18 -20 mil in LT $$$.
Twin Towers
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My Trade Idea (Tell the Bobcats bye bye)
Jazz get: Prince & Birdman
Nuggets get: AK, Favors and 2 first round draft picks
Nets get: Melo & Rodney Stuckey
Detroit Gets: Devin Harris
Maybe some minor adjustments. Take out birdman and get somebody with less talent to make it fair? Give Detroit more to make it fair?
Any recommendations or thoughts?
Jazz get: Prince & Birdman
Nuggets get: AK, Favors and 2 first round draft picks
Nets get: Melo & Rodney Stuckey
Detroit Gets: Devin Harris
Maybe some minor adjustments. Take out birdman and get somebody with less talent to make it fair? Give Detroit more to make it fair?
Any recommendations or thoughts?
Twin Towers
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Where are you getting your 6 million over the luxury tax? Do you have a link that shows the math? Because it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me when I look at Hoops Hype. I know they are never fully correct but there numbers are way less. I know Raja Bell isn't on there but still its not even close to what everyone is saying.
https://hoopshype.com/salaries/utah.htm
I'm using ESPN trade machine #'s.
They include Jeffers, Gaines, Evans and Bell. J/G/E are not guarenteed, but they don't include Fes's QO either.
Both sites seem to be a bit off depending on how you define the Jazz's current roster.
homeytennis
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Why would Melo agree to this. He will be lucky to win 30 games with the Nets.
7StraightIsGreat
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People need to get over the Harris thing. While it would be a coup for Utah to land him, there has to be another reason the Bobcoats are involved aside from Diaw. With all the talk of 1st round picks being involved, some of them certainly have to be coming from Char. It's nowhere near as simple as the Pro-Harris camp are making it out to be.
Twin Towers
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UPDATED
I just added up these players (ESPN Trade Machine). I took out Gaines because we know he will be released (Watson Signing)
Bell
Evans (Will Most Likely stay with team)
Hayward
Jeffers (Thompson could take his spot but money won't change much)
Jefferson
AK
Miles
Millsap
Okur
Price
Deron
Fesenko (QO)
Total: 76,069,022
https://www.nba.com/news/cba_minimumsalary_050804.html
Elson (7 years) = 1,146,337
Watson (9 years) = 1,229,255
New Total: 78,444,614
Current NBA Luxury Tax = $70,307,000
Utah Jazz are over the luxury tax by 8,137,614
8,137,614 (x2 for penalty); Total Jazz Luxury tax savings if AK trade happens 16,275,228
I just added up these players (ESPN Trade Machine). I took out Gaines because we know he will be released (Watson Signing)
Bell
Evans (Will Most Likely stay with team)
Hayward
Jeffers (Thompson could take his spot but money won't change much)
Jefferson
AK
Miles
Millsap
Okur
Price
Deron
Fesenko (QO)
Total: 76,069,022
https://www.nba.com/news/cba_minimumsalary_050804.html
Elson (7 years) = 1,146,337
Watson (9 years) = 1,229,255
New Total: 78,444,614
Current NBA Luxury Tax = $70,307,000
Utah Jazz are over the luxury tax by 8,137,614
8,137,614 (x2 for penalty); Total Jazz Luxury tax savings if AK trade happens 16,275,228
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And that still ain't chump change. Especially for a small market team like the Jazz.
But you also aren't counting the LT revenue that the Jazz would be getting if under the LT.