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KOC is a *****

Where's the evidence that they were negotiating? This is not substantiated and a figment of your imagination. And why would Matthews lie? I did hear the quote about the no hometown discount, but who said it and what was it in reference to?
 
No, they take a hit for not making a fair offer in the first place. And by doing that, they bite off their nose despite their face, to use the old cliche. That's my prediction that this will come back to haunt them. KOC should've learned his lesson the last time with Millsap. But once a weasel, always a weasel, I guess. Would you trust an employer who tries to get out of paying you a fair wage?
 
That is not the point. I think the Jazz lost a good piece for the future because of KOC's refusal to negotiate and lock up Matthews before Portland made an offer.
 
write4u said:
No, they take a hit for not making a fair offer in the first place. And by doing that, they bite off their nose despite their face, to use the old cliche. That's my prediction that this will come back to haunt them. KOC should've learned his lesson the last time with Millsap. But once a weasel, always a weasel, I guess. Would you trust an employer who tries to get out of paying you a fair wage?
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Seriously if you worked for a Nissan Dealer and your boss said go ahead and see what Ford or Toyota will offer you and we will consider matching if it make sense. How is that unethical?
 
Let's say KOC made Wes a 4 yr $16-18 million offer on July 1st. Wes wouldn't have accepted it July 2nd, his agent would have waited to get another offer to leverage it against, which wouldn't have happened until after the LeBron situation sorted itself out. So Portland still draws up their 5 yrs $34 million offer sheet with over $9 million coming to him immediately. How does this scenario play out any differently?
 
write4u said:
That is not the point. I think the Jazz lost a good piece for the future because of KOC's refusal to negotiate and lock up Matthews before Portland made an offer.
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Well, a year from now, our lottery pick Hayward had better be starting, pushing Matthews to the back-up role. Maybe Matthews isn't all that, and we don't need to lock him up for four years.
 
vslice02 said:
Let's say KOC made Wes a 4 yr $16-18 million offer on July 1st. Wes wouldn't have accepted it July 2nd, his agent would have waited to get another offer to leverage it against, which wouldn't have happened until after the LeBron situation sorted itself out. So Portland still draws up their 5 yrs $34 million offer sheet with over $9 million coming to him immediately. How does this scenario play out any differently?
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Not to mention it ties the Jazz's hands to be able to offer that money to other players who are available.
 
It's stupid. Because he lost him, just like he almost lost Millsap this year. It's also disingenuous. Because behind this is the motive to pay you less than you're worth. This is what I call disrespecting.
 
write4u said:
That is not the point. I think the Jazz lost a good piece for the future because of KOC's refusal to negotiate and lock up Matthews before Portland made an offer.
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Why weren't you on this message board a few weeks/months ago making threads about KOC locking up Matthews? It's because you, along with everybody else, didn't see Portland making an outrageous offer to Wes. It's easy for you to come on and blame KOC for not doing something in hindsight.
 
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