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Las Vegas: Worst Mass Shooting in US History

I don't know a ton of active or ex-military personnel but the ones I have known all have guns and most have a Charlton Heston pry it from my cold dead hands attitude. These dudes will not be willing to shoot their neighbors in order to take their guns from them. If States were to split into factions it seems likely the military would as well. It's probably fanciful thinking to imagine the military remaining unified in such a scenario. Our military capability is so powerful that you're probably right that there wouldn't be civil war. Either some compromise would be reached or the country would split in two with nobody willing to enforce national unity(much too high a cost).
No, it wouldn't. The military is united under the interest of big oil and the federal government.

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Frankly this whole "it'll be a CIVIL war" nonsense is ****ing non sense. Quit daydreaming, a state militia could immobilize any ****ing guerrilla group that tried arming and firing on people who disagreed with them. And it wouldn't go that far anyways-- this is just a scare tactic to paralyze progress. I don't have patience for that. I don't give a **** if I'm hurting some dudes feelings just because he *********** to the thought of firearms

Dala, who do you think the military is made of?

I can assure you, it is not full of people who share a viewpoint like yours. They're not just going to go out and attack their families because of a new law. Get real.

I understand you're somewhat ignorant towards the gun culture here, but trust me when I say that these are people who won't go out without a fight. I don't agree with them at all, but this is just how it is. I think we need to explore other options.
 
Easy?

You have almost a year of waiting from clearance from the ATF (that entails a full federal background check that they take quite seriously), and that's just for a license. Then you're spending a minimum of 5 figures for a rifle. I think including this, they've been used in a mass shooting 3 times.

I've never owned a gun, and know nothing about automatic weapons. But, from what I read here, a semi automatic can be converted to fully automatic. Also, I've read that the shooter was a millionaire, so he could likely afford a pre 1986 automatic weapon, and Nevada has less restrictions then many other states:

https://www.wired.com/story/las-vegas-shooting-automatic-rifle/
 
Has anyone seen the video of where it looks like shots being fired from the 4th floor of Mandalay Bay? I think it looks like reflections, but you know there are going to be some crazy conspiracies with this.
I've seen a few conspiracies popping up on Facebook. Crazy stuff.

Until the extremes on both sides calm down every time one of these tragedies occur, we will never been able to have any meaningful discussion about gun violence.
 
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