Las Vegas: Worst Mass Shooting in US History

[RandyForRubio]

Are you saying that I presented a scenario that doesn't happen in real life?
I'm betting someone was using the bathroom at that concert when the shooting started.

I'm trying have conversation and pick your brain for info and your opinion.

You, be a dick.
I will go back to not engaging with you.

Anybody can find random inane situations to fit their viewpoint. It's not worth discussing. You have a habit of perpetually doing this, and then when called on it, you throw a hissy fit. It would be well worth your time to figure out why you aren't bringing forth much of an argument. And you can call it asking questions, but anybody with a brain can see that you're bringing forth very biased "questions" that try to lead to your conclusion that you've already made. And pointing it out isn't being a dick, it's just somebody actually being honest with you. Don't be so sensitive.

To answer you though, if I walk out of a bathroom and see bodies lying on the ground, I can get a pretty good idea that I should go back in the bathroom and wait it out. And even if he missed, you would still hear it! You could still see the bullet hit something! It doesn't just disappear.

 

[BabyPeterzz]

This thread just turned into what equates to a world of warcraft forum. you ****ing nerds.

 

[fishonjazz]

Anybody can find random inane situations to fit their viewpoint. It's not worth discussing. You have a habit of perpetually doing this, and then when called on it, you throw a hissy fit. It would be well worth your time to figure out why you aren't bringing forth much of an argument. And you can call it asking questions, but anybody with a brain can see that you're bringing forth very biased "questions" that try to lead to your conclusion that you've already made. And pointing it out isn't being a dick, it's just somebody actually being honest with you. Don't be so sensitive.

To answer you though, if I walk out of a bathroom and see bodies lying on the ground, I can get a pretty good idea that I should go back in the bathroom and wait it out. And even if he missed, you would still hear it! You could still see the bullet hit something! It doesn't just disappear.

What's inane about it?
Cappy_Smurf was saying that a suppressor could help a shooter kill more people. I'm confident that real life common scenarios exist when that would be the case.
Agree to disagree.
I said nothing about imaginary beings or magic or anything like that. I will wait and see if you offer up an apology. Doubtful though.

You talked awhile back about you want people to disagree with you cause that's how you learn and grow blah blah blah.

I ask you some simple questions to figure out why you think the way you do and get treated like **** for it.

 

[fishonjazz]

To answer you though, if I walk out of a bathroom and see bodies lying on the ground, I can get a pretty good idea that I should go back in the bathroom and wait it out.

Do you think that maybe if you were in a bathroom and thought you might hear gun shots outside that you maybe would stay in the bathroom or at least exit the bathroom in a more careful way?
I think I would.

 

[RandyForRubio]

What's inane about it?
Cappy_Smurf was saying that a suppressor could help a shooter kill more people. I'm confident that real life common scenarios exist when that would be the case.
Agree to disagree.
I said nothing about imaginary beings or magic or anything like that. I will wait and see if you offer up an apology. Doubtful though.

Hey Fish, I used the giant dragon as an exaggerated form of a strawman. Call it hyperbole if you may, I used it to make a point. I wasn't suggesting that you were invoking imaginary creatures. I have nothing to apologize for.

I can't believe I just had to explain that.

When it comes to your average citizen, in an average environment, having a suppressor would not enable you to kill more. We have no factual basis to suggest that. I can come up with a possibility where a highly trained individual with excellent equipment could do so, but that's not realistic. That would be a strawman.

Fish, I'm not the only person who has pointed this out to you. It's not a vendetta I have against you. It's just a habit you have. Trying to help you bud.

 

[fishonjazz]

Earlier today franklin compared killing people with guns to using gasoline or knives.
If I would have used a comparison like that I would have been said to have used a straw man.

I don't see how it's bad to look at other, differing examples of things in a discussion to see other possibilities.

 

[RandyForRubio]

Do you think that maybe if you were in a bathroom and thought you might hear gun shots outside that you maybe would stay in the bathroom or at least exit the bathroom in a more careful way?
I think I would.

I don't think you understand how much impact a suppressor has.

 

[fishonjazz]

Hey Fish, I used the giant dragon as an exaggerated form of a strawman. Call it hyperbole if you may, I used it to make a point. I wasn't suggesting that you were invoking imaginary creatures. I have nothing to apologize for.

I can't believe I just had to explain that.

When it comes to your average citizen, in an average environment, having a suppressor would not enable you to kill more. We have no factual basis to suggest that. I can come up with a possibility where a highly trained individual with excellent equipment could do so, but that's not realistic. That would be a strawman.

Fish, I'm not the only person who has pointed this out to you. It's not a vendetta I have against you. It's just a habit you have. Trying to help you bud.

Define strawman.

 

[RandyForRubio]

Earlier today franklin compared killing people with guns to using gasoline or knives.
If I would have used a comparison like that I would have been said to have used a straw man.

I don't see how it's bad to look at other, differing examples of things in a discussion to see other possibilities.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Is JTP really arguing suppressor should be legal?

 

[fishonjazz]

Define strawman.

This is what I found: an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument.
I didn't intentionally misrepresent anything and wasn't trying to defeat anyone's arguement.

I was trying to find out if jtp thought that in a particular, real life scenario, a suppressor could aid a shooter in killing more people.

It seems like it could to me. Especially at a loud event if the shooter was far away and wanted to go undetected for as long as possible that maybe there is a chance a suppressor could help.

Am I crazy to that could be possible? I don't think I am.

 

[fishonjazz]

Is JTP really arguing suppressor should be legal?

Just that they would never help a shooter be more dangerous