Lauri Markkanen, no longer considered untouchable?

[hgb]

Here is how a GS trade might actually work and I might be on board. They are a team I could see falling off and we've already seen some serious regression, so I would value their draft fairly high.

They owe a pick top 4 protected this year. It will convey... especially if we send them Lauri. When you make trades like these the language just has to make sure the Stepien rule will be satisfied. So we get...

2025 pick swap with any of the picks we own (ours, cavs, Twolves)
2026 unprotected
2027 pick swap with any of the picks we own
2028 unprotected
2029 pick swap with any of the picks we own
2030 they owe a highly protected pick to Wiz so we get nothing here.

The swaps have HIGH value in this scenario and you can use that swap value in trades. I think you could comfortably say you will end up pickin 5-10 spots higher with the super swap value.

We also get Kuminga and Moody - though I may route one or both elsewhere. More likely to keep Moody as I'm just not a big believer in Kuminga. Though playing without the GS system may unlock some things.

I think I would do this trade as GS is already on borrowed time. Steph likely ages well but tends to miss chunks of seasons here or there. If you have control of 5 drafts there will be a lotto pick or two in there.

I don't see the Warriors doing this. They'll need their young players and picks to stay relevant, and I'm not so sure they think Lauri is enough to make them a contender this year.

I'm not sure I would do it either, though.

 

[SoberasHotRod]

OKC really should be looking to add to this group. SGA is soooooo ready. Legit two way stud who will be a nightmare to guard in a playoff series. Whether its Lauri or OG OKC should be really active.

I've mentioned it before, but if I was Presti it would be really hard not to start buying. They have a really good team, but have the assets to be a great team. In order to contend they probably need a big body that can go up against Jokic and Embiid.

Presti might have to accept a bad return to get off Giddey. He might be too proud to do it.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I don't see the Warriors doing this. They'll need their young players and picks to stay relevant, and I'm not so sure they think Lauri is enough to make them a contender this year.

I'm not sure I would do it either, though.

Both sides being hesitant is kind of where the deal zone is imo. Are Kuminga/Moody going to carry them to more relevance in the future than teaming Lauri up with Steph?

 

[SoberasHotRod]

they wouldn't suck as bad with Lauri doe.

Klay looks washed but they will pay him to stay around (maybe not Dray money but still)
Wiggins looks as checked out as he ever has. He's also locked up long term... those two are related.
Dray.... well yeah
Steph is 35. Even if he ages like a Ray Allen did there is some regression coming.
They are capped out.
SF is not the FA destination it was 5 years ago as the city is such a dumpster fire.
They wouldn't have control of their draft for 6 years.
They think their **** don't stink.


Its a recipe for a serious downfall.

Yeah it's hard to let go and it's hard to let Steph down, but they should be sellers, not buyers.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Yeah it's hard to let go and it's hard to let Steph down, but they should be sellers, not buyers.

I might agree but the only thing they have to sell with a lot of value is the young guys and Steph. Cashing in on Steph would be wild. I don't see Dunleavy and the arrogant "light years ahead" ownership group diving head first into a rebuild.

 

[SoberasHotRod]

I might agree but the only thing they have to sell with a lot of value is the young guys and Steph. Cashing in on Steph would be wild. I don't see Dunleavy and the arrogant "light years ahead" ownership group diving head first into a rebuild.

True, their rebuild will be long and painful.

 

[hgb]

Both sides being hesitant is kind of where the deal zone is imo. Are Kuminga/Moody going to carry them to more relevance in the future than teaming Lauri up with Steph?

Not sure, but and they'd do it for those two alone no question, but giving up so much future draft capital as well is a mighty big gamble.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

True, their rebuild will be long and painful.

I also think there is a chance that Lauri may not re-sign there. They don't have the space to do a renegotiate and extend deal. So would have to wait until he's a FA. Its a terrible city to live in with a family right now (would feel bad about that). If Steph looks like he's fading and they aren't looking good in the future... why stay there? Taxes and cost of living are horrible too.

The uncertainty may be what makes them not offer up what I outlined. They've avoided cashing in future firsts too... so they may just ride out some mediocre years.

 

[infection]

Dunleavy is the GM right now... coincidence?

Damn, I’m out of the loop. I’m assuming it’s Jr. and not Sr., right?

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

True, their rebuild will be long and painful.

Ours will be long and painful unless we settle for mediocrity

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Damn, I’m out of the loop. I’m assuming it’s Jr. and not Sr., right?

Its Jr.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Not sure, but and they'd do it for those two alone no question, but giving up so much future draft capital as well is a mighty big gamble.

It is... and they may pass because of that. I think the draft capital is obviously more meaningful than the players but I'd want the players too. I wouldn't want them swinging other deals or have those guys really play well and keep them afloat.