Legalize Cannabis

[SaltyDawg]

Won't it ease to access to it, so increase the possibility of the more people being an addict, especially the younger ones? My father went into a shock when he found out I was using the thing and was worried as hell for me for years. Now I'm in college and has seen countless addicts, all of them started with the can, I understand my old mans state of mind. I wouldn't want my child to be in a state where one can easily access a drug which carries a possibility to cause using more strong things or make one an addict to a material. So yes, I believe it can hurt people other than the users.

But I agree on the subject which is about that there is a huge imperfect laws and regulations etc problem on all this drug/cannabis matter.

I don't think it should be legal for kids, that's not what I'm saying. I think it should be legal for adults though.

You can't ban it for adults just because you don't want kids to have it. It's up to the parents to keep it away from the kids. Just like alcohol, tobacco, firearms, cars, rat poison, and countless other things that aren't safe for kids.

 

[ema]

I'm not talking about the kids either. 18 is also way immature age for instance. But the problem is, it's already a world that the drugs are everywhere. Even an ordinary high school kid can access cannabis easily and even to more. I can't imagine it if it was legal. Here in Turkey you can't buy cigarettes if you aren't an adult but it's very high of percentage of smoking among the U-18 kids. Plus, I don't think it's just like alcohol, tobacco etc, it's different.

And as I said earlier I honestly believe that cannabis is dangerous to getting the started things. I respect your opinion but that's mine honest opinion.

 

[Nate505]

I'm not talking about the kids either. 18 is also way immature age for instance. But the problem is, it's already a world that the drugs are everywhere. Even an ordinary high school kid can access cannabis easily and even to more. I can't imagine it if it was legal. Here in Turkey you can't buy cigarettes if you aren't an adult but it's very high of percentage of smoking among the U-18 kids. Plus, I don't think it's just like alcohol, tobacco etc, it's different.

And as I said earlier I honestly believe that cannabis is dangerous to getting the started things. I respect your opinion but that's mine honest opinion.

It's not like alcohol? What's different about alcohol that makes it more justified to be legal?

 

[SaltyDawg]

I'm not talking about the kids either. 18 is also way immature age for instance. But the problem is, it's already a world that the drugs are everywhere. Even an ordinary high school kid can access cannabis easily and even to more. I can't imagine it if it was legal. Here in Turkey you can't buy cigarettes if you aren't an adult but it's very high of percentage of smoking among the U-18 kids. Plus, I don't think it's just like alcohol, tobacco etc, it's different.

And as I said earlier I honestly believe that cannabis is dangerous to getting the started things. I respect your opinion but that's mine honest opinion.

How is it any different from alcohol and tobacco? Why should those be legal and cannabis be illegal?

I couldn't disagree more that something should be totally illegal just to keep it away from kids. Make it illegal for kids to use it, fine. But don't make it illegal for consenting adults just because you don't want kids to have it. Just make it a really strict penalty for any adult that gives it to kids.

 

[ema]

I don't like alcohol either but, drugs have its own world which is horrible and on an another level and it can drag to the horrible results with way more possibility and frequently. Just me thinks, based on my experience.

 

[SaltyDawg]

I don't like alcohol either but, drugs have its own world which is horrible and on an another level and it can drag to the horrible results with way more possibility and frequently. Just me thinks, based on my experience.

I would argue that alcohol is much worse than cannabis. It's much worse for your health, much more addictive, and leads to worse behavior. It can even kill you, which cannabis can't.

 

[ema]

How is it any different from alcohol and tobacco? Why should those be legal and cannabis be illegal?

I couldn't disagree more that something should be totally illegal just to keep it away from kids. Make it illegal for kids to use it, fine. But don't make it illegal for consenting adults just because you don't want kids to have it. Just make it a really strict penalty for any adult that gives it to kids.

Aren't there that strict penalties already? Which don't work... I'm not saying to make it all illegal or all legal either, hell I've no opinion about the solution.

I'm trying to say, it won't be better for the community to make it legal than it being illegal, so does it worth to increasing risks of more addict people for just people who want their heads cracked freely?

 

[GVC]

I'm not talking about the kids either. 18 is also way immature age for instance. But the problem is, it's already a world that the drugs are everywhere. Even an ordinary high school kid can access cannabis easily and even to more. I can't imagine it if it was legal. Here in Turkey you can't buy cigarettes if you aren't an adult but it's very high of percentage of smoking among the U-18 kids. Plus, I don't think it's just like alcohol, tobacco etc, it's different.

And as I said earlier I honestly believe that cannabis is dangerous to getting the started things. I respect your opinion but that's mine honest opinion.

Virtually everything in this post runs counter to the best existing literature. The propaganda works, and you've been duped. Your honest opinion is wrong, plain and simple.

You assume that something being legal makes it easier for minors to obtain. There are two major problems:

1. Minors have a much more difficult time buying goods legal only for adult consumption because the sale of such goods is almost entirely restricted to regulated establishments. If you take away the black market, it's entirely possible that cannabis use among minors declines.

2. In both the Netherlands and Portugal, decriminalized states, rates of use cannabis use among minors has either declined or risen at rates much lower than other illicit substances and/or other (similar) countries.

 

[ema]

I would argue that alcohol is much worse than cannabis. It's much worse for your health, much more addictive, and leads to worse behavior. It can even kill you, which cannabis can't.

Alcohol maybe worse than cannabis, I may agree on that, but cannabis opens a door to the way way worse things, I'm just hating on that fact even though people believe it's a small amount of people who use strong drugs because of the cannabis.

Btw, my english went out of control, sorry for that.

 

[GVC]

I'm trying to say, it won't be better for the community to make it legal than it being illegal, so does it worth to increasing risks of more addict people for just people who want their heads cracked freely?

Again, the gateway theory has been debunked so many times it's not worth discussing anymore. Further, there are other side effects of the current policy- the marginalization of convicted felons (and other negative consequences of imprisonment, especially in light of the high rates of recidivism), the promotion of the black market and organized criminal activity in general (consider the negative consequences of alcohol prohibition in America in the 20s), the disintegration of the family (when non-violent offenders are imprisoned..this also relates to the problem of learned criminal activity in prison), possible adverse health effects (uncontrolled substances that will be used regardless are far more likely to be laced with other more serious and addictive drugs), and (again) potentially higher use among minors- that ought to be considered. This is ignoring entirely the cost of the current (international) policy, and the other, more effective and cheaper, methods of dealing with matters of public health, like addiction.

 

[ema]

Virtually everything in this post runs counter to the best existing literature. The propaganda works, and you've been duped. Your honest opinion is wrong, plain and simple.

You assume that something being legal makes it easier for minors to obtain. There are two major problems:

1. Minors have a much more difficult time buying goods legal only for adult consumption because the sale of such goods is almost entirely restricted to regulated establishments. If you take away the black market, it's entirely possible that cannabis use among minors declines.

2. In both the Netherlands and Portugal, decriminalized states, rates of use cannabis use among minors has either declined or risen at rates much lower than other illicit substances and/or other (similar) countries.

1. Once the drugs are on the adults hands? Isn't it the same situation?

2. I can speak for Netherlands only(don't know portugal)... In there, there are extreme efforts to reduce the drugs usage. And it improves and grows every single year more and more. Maybe it is the thing it cures?

 

[SaltyDawg]

Alcohol maybe worse than cannabis, I may agree on that, but cannabis opens a door to the way way worse things, I'm just hating on that fact even though people believe it's a small amount of people who use strong drugs because of the cannabis.

Btw, my english went out of control, sorry for that.

So then legalize those worse things too. Let people make their own choices. Problem solved. If my neighbor wants to smoke crack in his basement, that's not my business. He can do what he wants in his own basement as far as I'm concerned.

Make it illegal for him to give the drugs to his kids and he probably won't (just like he doesn't give his kids beer today).