Lets put it out there ....Who thinks Hill starts over Exum,I don't

[str8line]

He was 18. And had never played anything close to that level of competition before. You can't take his rookie stats and assume that's all he'll ever be. Towards the end of his rookie season we saw improvement in his overall game. He did start to drive to the basket and see the game better. At last years summer league we saw even more improvement from him. 8 APG isn't out of the range of possibility for him. He has all the physical tools. Once the lightbulb clicks on for him that guys have trouble staying in front of him he can be an all star level player.

He has the tools, but does he have the body mass to take it inside? Will he look scared like his rookie year or will he come out at the same level as summer league last year? Does anyone know if he has gained weight?

 

[Stifle Tower]

Exum will need time to get back into basketball shape. Hill will start, with Dante getting around 20 mins/per and then gradually increasing once he shows he can shoot and drive without crapping his shorts.

Hill is also a better fit with the starters. Gobert gives them no shooting and Favors is just a mid-range threat. Even Hayward is only an adequate 3pt shooter. Hill is a better shooter than Exum. So that leaves Hayward to run plays, with Hood and Hill behind the arc. Favors inside and Rudy trying to not muck things up on offense - or get fouled when he does touch the ball.

On the 2nd unit, Dante will have Lyles, Burks and whoever backs up Gobert. All of those players will take the pressure off Exum to have to be an outside threat.

 

[SCS]

He has the tools, but does he have the body mass to take it inside? Will he look scared like his rookie year or will he come out at the same level as summer league last year? Does anyone know if he has gained weight?

I don't know if he's gained weight or not but I remember seeing a tweet a few weeks ago from Tony Jones who works at the Salt Lake Tribune, he said he saw Dante at the training facility and he looked like he was in great shape.

 

[tleikheen]

No doubt this season is about winning, just meant that the Hill acquisition has no impact on the fact that Exum is still considered the PG of the future. Honestly, I don't see who starts between the two having a major impact on the outcome of the season. I expect both to play significant roles & Hill to close out games (at least for the beginning of the season).

I have no doubt George Hill is going to be in the guard rotation with Exum,Hood and Burks and that the Jazz will have one of the best Guard rotation in the NBA next season.Hill will eliminate playing time for Mack and Neto and be similar to Alec Burks in playing time.Some games Hill/Burks close out games if Exum/Hood struggle.I just don't see the Jazz pairing up Hood with Hill if the Jazz view Exum/Hood as their backcourt.Separating them is going to make them better? For now and the future?

By having the quickness of a point guard and the size of a wing, Exum's close-outs and double-teams take on an elastic quality valuable to Utah's resurgent defense. In fact, the Jazz lead the NBA in defensive rating (87.1 points per 100 possessions) since the All-Star break.

https://www.si.com/nba/2015/03/03/dante-exum-utah-jazz-the-craft

The win now attitude being portrayed with the Hill trade,if you remember the Jazz did win with Exum playing.Now with Hill going to be in the rotation with Exum,Hood,and Burks should really be fun to watch.

Exum could extend out and use his length to pressure opposing PG’s, the vast majority of whom were giving up a substantial number of inches. It’s just very hard to shoot over the top of a super-sized PG like Exum on the perimeter and there wasn’t much space to operate behind him either.

As a franchise, the Jazz have made a killing by drafting to a physical prototype. They are bigger, longer and faster than their opponents at almost every position

Exum is playing 5 on 5 scrimmages now with 4 more months til the season starts.With more muscle and a season watching and learning from the front row seat Exum should be way better than the scrawny kid straight out of a Australian high school.

he was playing high school basketball in Australia, which is about the farthest possible jump from NBA competition as can be imagined. The lifestyle transition from being a relatively anonymous high schooler half the world away is difficult enough before you even get into having to face the best players in the world on a nightly basis at the toughest position in the league.

Yet the Jazz won with him playing and he made the team better defensively and offensively

 

[tleikheen]

Hill is also a better fit with the starters. Gobert gives them no shooting and Favors is just a mid-range threat. Even Hayward is only an adequate 3pt shooter. Hill is a better shooter than Exum. So that leaves Hayward to run plays, with Hood and Hill behind the arc. Favors inside and Rudy trying to not muck things up on offense - or get fouled when he does touch the ball.

How do you know this ?? Exum already was better than anyone else at getting Gobert the ball.All last year fans here were saying Gobert regressed .Blame the PG's I say.Favors is much more than just a mid range threat ,he's a terror on the inside and with Exum should get more opportunities there.Remember in 34 MPG GHill avg.just 3 assists.

And lastly I don't want to see Hayward and Hood walking the ball up the court again for another year.I want to see them sprinting up the court with Exum.

 

[Stifle Tower]

You misunderstood me on Favors. He's good inside and to mid-range. But outside of Hood, Utah doesn't have 3pt threats. Dante was horrid his rookie season shooting. Hayward is more drive or step-back; he's not a great shooter from deep. Hill starting gives them that threat, along with Hood, which should open up the inside.

Until he proves otherwise, Exum isn't a threat. Teams can just play off him. We all want Exum to be this great player. Maybe he gets there. But let's take off the homer glasses and see him for what he is right now: a good defensive player who is hesitant on offense, can't shoot and rarely drives with purpose. Instead of catch and shoot, he's catch and pass, generally back out to Hayward or Hood/Burks on the perimeter.

 

[Ron Mexico]

.315 is not a great 3 point percentage but it is not horrid. This season that percentage would put Exum right in between James Harden and Jason Terry. Ahead of Durant, Chris Paul, Kyle Lowry and about 200 other NBA players. Right on par with Westbrook and Kemba Walker. Although most NBA players and especially young pgs improve their 3 pt percentage going in their 3rd year. I would expect either the percentage to go up for Exum or the volume to go up and stay around the same. 3 pt percentage was not Exums big problem his rookie year, he shot okay.

 

[ncoloradojazz]

So now we have Hill and his 3.5 apg/34 mpg and he's going to be the starting PG.He complements well but he's not going to run the show for the Jazz.Give Exum 34 mpg and he's probably 8 apg plus !! Hill joins the rotation of Exum,Hood and Burks but the best chance the Jazz win big is with Exum running the show.

You don't just hand players starting jobs. YOu let them work it out in practice, make them earn it. Also Hil laveraged 6 assist last yeat not 3.5.. You are eready to give an unkown players full control of a team? lol... Safe to say we know why you never would be a good gm.

 

[Cappy_Smurf]

If the knee is healthy, Dante is the starter and it's not even a discussion.

Not even close. Dante starting over Trey Burke had everything to do with the fact that Trey Burke sucks as a basketball player. Neto started over him FFS. George Hill is actually a good player. He will be the starter and that won't change until Dante takes it away from him.

Fans expecting Exum to start this season are missing something. One of the reasons Utah chose Hill over Teague is because they expect to re-sign him. Hill will deserve the starting spot, so there's no way you start Dante over him just because of what you hope he will someday be.

 

[Coach Ellis]

Exum, Gobert, Lyles and Hood will all be damn good basketball players. I'm excited to see what Dante did in terms of body building for this season. If he makes the same physical jump that Hayward has since he was drafted by Utah. . . look out. Lyles is the other guy that I can see making a huge jump this year after working out in Utah and at P3 for the whole summer.

 

[Coach Ellis]

Not even close. Dante starting over Trey Burke had everything to do with the fact that Trey Burke sucks as a basketball player. Neto started over him FFS. George Hill is actually a good player. He will be the starter and that won't change until Dante takes it away from him.

Fans expecting Exum to start this season are missing something. Utah chose Hill over Teague for a reason, and that's because they expect to re-sign him. Hill will deserve the starting spot, so there's no way you start Dante over him just because of what you hope he will someday be.

Great post. I want Dante to start because he's done what he needs to do to be the best option for the Jazz. Physically, he has the tools to get there. I'm hoping that working with Snyder, and now George Hill, helps him get to that point. I want Exum starting because, hopefully, it means that he's healthy and a top 10 PG in the NBA (with a top 15 PG as his backup.)

 

[karl malone]

I have no doubt George Hill is going to be in the guard rotation with Exum,Hood and Burks and that the Jazz will have one of the best Guard rotation in the NBA next season.Hill will eliminate playing time for Mack and Neto and be similar to Alec Burks in playing time.Some games Hill/Burks close out games if Exum/Hood struggle.I just don't see the Jazz pairing up Hood with Hill if the Jazz view Exum/Hood as their backcourt.Separating them is going to make them better? For now and the future?

I believe Exum will start in order to further build chemistry with Hood, Hayward, Favors, & Gobert as that is clearly the starting 5 of the future so I'm not sure what you meant by the last part of your post.