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Lets put it out there ....Who thinks Hill starts over Exum,I don't

Ellis269 said:
Great post. I want Dante to start because he's done what he needs to do to be the best option for the Jazz. Physically, he has the tools to get there. I'm hoping that working with Snyder, and now George Hill, helps him get to that point. I want Exum starting because, hopefully, it means that he's healthy and a top 10 PG in the NBA (with a top 15 PG as his backup.)
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This is going to be kind of a Debbie downer post, but the reality is that with the injury Dante is coming back from, it's almost a certainty that his defense will be somewhat diminished. Obviously we all have our fingers crossed that he recovers near 100%, but the possibility exists that we may never see him play defense quite the same as before the injury. If Dante does recover to the point of being able to beat out Hill as the starter, I think it will take time, and not a few months. Maybe a year or two. Right now, I think it's safe to say that Hill is likely the better player at both ends of the court.
 
Maybe he gets there. But let's take off the homer glasses and see him for what he is right now: a good defensive player who is hesitant on offense, can't shoot and rarely drives with purpose. Instead of catch and shoot, he's catch and pass, generally back out to Hayward or Hood/Burks on the perimeter.
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Does Jazz management and coaching staff have homer glasses on then for actually being plzed that Exum took the 3pt shots when he had too.Coming from high school in Australia to letting 3 pters fly and still bury .315 % against the best PG's in the world.
I thought it was said that the Jazz coaching staff was very surprised what Exum could do at the defensive end.That they didn't know he could come in and play at a high level defensively.
a good defensive player who is hesitant on offense, can't shoot and rarely drives with purpose.
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was he like this in practice ,what did management see in the practices and games that they stand so solidly behind him while some fans don't think he did enough,ignoring where he came from and not giving him credit for doing what he could get away with without hurting his team.Seems for the most part he made mostly right choices since they won and dominated defensively and scored more pts when he was on the court.
 
Broncster said:
.315 is not a great 3 point percentage but it is not horrid. This season that percentage would put Exum right in between James Harden and Jason Terry. Ahead of Durant, Chris Paul, Kyle Lowry and about 200 other NBA players. Right on par with Westbrook and Kemba Walker.
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Are you being serious?
Harden. 36% from three this year.
Durant. 39%
Cp3. 37%
Terry. 35%
Lowry. 39%

31% from three is horrendous.
I think you got confused somehow.
 
fishonjazz said:
Are you being serious?
Harden. 36% from three this year.
Durant. 39%
Cp3. 37%
Terry. 35%
Lowry. 39%

31% from three is horrendous.
I think you got confused somehow.
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Hmm, I'll have to look again later. Either way Exums percentage isn't good but for a rookie that is not a horrid number it's decent.
 
fishonjazz said:
Are you being serious?
Harden. 36% from three this year.
Durant. 39%
Cp3. 37%
Terry. 35%
Lowry. 39%

31% from three is horrendous.
I think you got confused somehow.
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Broncster said:
Hmm, I'll have to look again later. Either way Exums percentage isn't good but for a rookie that is not a horrid number it's decent.
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I assumed you were talking about everyone's rookie numbers.
 
Broncster said:
Hmm, I'll have to look again later. Either way Exums percentage isn't good but for a rookie that is not a horrid number it's decent.
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Maybe cy is right and you spoke only of those players rookie numbers rather than last year.

Either way, I think 31% from three is poor. His 35% from the field, 62% from the line, 32 free throw attempts total for the season (dante played in all 82 games), 3.9 assists per 36, 2.6 rebounds per 36, 2.3 turnovers per 36, and 7.8 points per 36 were all very bad.

There is no real way to sugar coat it. Box score wise and offensively exum sucked his rookie year. He was super raw and young so it's not that big of a deal (hopefully this injury doesn't derail his career further) and was great defensively and seems like a good smart hard working kid.
 
Not naming them.. but I swear this thread is home to some of the worst takes in the history of Al Gore's invention.
 
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Fish is on the right track. Not only is 31% terrible, but Dante only shot when he was wide open - 31% on pretty much only uncontested threes is atrocious.
 
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