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Lets say Hayward walks.. How can they best damage control it?

LazyD said:
In response to the OP, it'd be a bummer if Hayward walked, but I don't think it'd too bad considering how the team is structured. They haven't gone all-in to quickly contend, or been uber patient in a massive rebuilding process (maybe they've kinda done this a little in the past few years). I think once this season has finished they'll evaluate things and decide which way to move - either a promising season leads them to be more aggressive and try more win now moves, or a disappointing season might cause them to pump the *brakes a little, maintain flexibility, and focus on building a stronger foundation for their team to be competitive.

So, in short, I don't think it will be the end of the world if Hayward left because of the way the team is constructed. The strength of its construction imo is its ability to adapt to whatever situation comes its way. Sure, the Jazz will be worse without Hayward, but the organization shouldn't go very far backwards if they do at all.
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This.
 
I would LOVE to get cp3 on the jazz.
 
I have absolutely zero fear of him walking. The only way that happens is if we don't make the playoffs or if we do and only win a game or two. None of this will happen. I literally, no homerism, think we are going to win right around 54-57 games, get the 2, 3 or 4 seed, win in the first round, and play very competitive in the second round, possibly even winning it depending on the match-up and health. He won't really have any better options, other than Boston some would say, but Horford isn't anything special (and is a bit older) and they simply don't have all the legit pieces we do. Seriously. Gobert. Favors. Hood. Exum. Hill. JJ. Lyles. Diaw. Burks. Our talent is ridic. And he's not a stupid kid and will recognize that. Our talent exceeds any other suitor's across the board, he has great chemistry and freindships with these guys, his home and family are here, and he can get more years and money from a contract here. Not to mention, the number of teams that will be able to offer him a max are limited. The pgab's of the world who make this out like it's some huge concern are delusional. He's staying.
 
Cunning Linguist said:
I have absolutely zero fear of him walking. The only way that happens is if we don't make the playoffs or if we do and only win a game or two. None of this will happen. I literally, no homerism, think we are going to win right around 54-57 games, get the 2, 3 or 4 seed, win in the first round, and play very competitive in the second round, possibly even winning it depending on the match-up and health. He won't really have any better options, other than Boston some would say, but Horford isn't anything special (and is a bit older) and they simply don't have all the legit pieces we do. Seriously. Gobert. Favors. Hood. Exum. Hill. JJ. Lyles. Diaw. Burks. Our talent is ridic. And he's not a stupid kid and will recognize that. Our talent exceeds any other suitor's across the board, he has great chemistry and freindships with these guys, his home and family are here, and he can get more years and money from a contract here. Not to mention, the number of teams that will be able to offer him a max are limited. The pgab's of the world who make this out like it's some huge concern are delusional. He's staying.
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Talk about lost in reality. YOu say Horford isn't anything special but then name those Jazz players and say the talent is Ridic..HAHA, Al Horford has more NBA all star games then all that talent combined. Let this little FACT sink into you brain damaged head for a second.
 
PG_AB said:
Boston is positioned for homecourt advantage and to be one of the top challengers in the east as is, why would they be so desperate to trade for Hayward when they can just sign him in the offseason?

Basically, you think Boston is as desperate as the Knicks were for Carmelo? C'mon now, they're obviously not that naive.
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Simple reason that has seem to escape you in your NBA2K brain.... Since Boston is in good position now and yet have a lot of draft picks it makes a lot of sense to make moves. Boston doesn't want to keep adding rookies when they are in position now. I suggest stop playing video game GM and look at the reality of it.
 
Cunning Linguist said:
I literally, no homerism, think we are going to win right around 54-57 games, get the 2, 3 or 4 seed, win in the first round, and play very competitive in the second round, possibly even winning it depending on the match-up and health.
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You are predicting a 14 to 17 game improvement from one season to another from a team that was already average. My memory might be failing me but, to tell you the truth, I don't recall anything like that happening over the last ten years, with any team. I hope you're right, though.
 
Broncster said:
Ugh, people are reading this thread and responding? It is long enough that maybe I am wrong and this is worth the read. Did ya''ll see the OP? Anyone here able to vouch for this thread as being worth any amount of my time to read?


Lets ask a follow up question. If Jazz win the championship do we resign everyone and try and chase a dynasty or go the 90s Toronto Blue Jays route and mix it up every year and hope we get a couple in a row?
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No one really responded to the OP under the guidelines outlined (Other than me), the thread is about a course of action for if Hayward walks, which was immediately derailed.

it's not worth reading.

Just predictable, near-sighted, deluded responses about the Jazz, people trying to reinforce their old points from other threads by suggesting unobtainable trades and also absurd leaps of faith about them winning a championship.
 
ghsartin said:
You are predicting a 14 to 17 game improvement from one season to another from a team that was already average. My memory might be failing me but, to tell you the truth, I don't recall anything like that happening over the last ten years, with any team. I hope you're right, though.
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Cunning Linguist is just whats called controlled opposition, and not to be taken seriously under any circumstances, he exists to speak of extreme scenarios to try to broaden the spectrum of responses on this forum, look at him undder that light and you'll see just how predictable and formulaic his responses are. An obvious agent of the mods or owners of this site to fluff up the responses/post counts, and nothing more, he's not the only one too, see Ncoloradojazz and there's several more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubIpoPjBUds
 
PG_AB said:
Cunning Linguist is just whats called controlled opposition, and not to be taken seriously under any circumstances, he exists to speak of extreme scenarios to try to broaden the spectrum of responses on this forum, look at him undder that light and you'll see just how predictable and formulaic his responses are. An obvious agent of the mods or owners of this site to fluff up the responses/post counts, and nothing more, he's not the only one too, see Ncoloradojazz and there's several more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubIpoPjBUds
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Hahahahahahahahaha


Thanks, I needed that.
[MENTION=14]colton[/MENTION] !!! Why was I not included in choosing our covert agents!?!
 
Stoked said:
Hahahahahahahahaha


Thanks, I needed that.
[MENTION=14]colton[/MENTION] !!! Why was I not included in choosing our covert agents!?!
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They aren't all chosen, some are sold, one of the perks of premium membership is obviously being allowed to create multiple accounts so users can post extreme grade aaa garbage and not take flack for it on their 'real' accounts.
 
ncoloradojazz said:
Simple reason that has seem to escape you in your NBA2K brain.... Since Boston is in good position now and yet have a lot of draft picks it makes a lot of sense to make moves. Boston doesn't want to keep adding rookies when they are in position now. I suggest stop playing video game GM and look at the reality of it.
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Why does it make sense for them to make moves at this deadline? Wouldn't it make sense for them to showcase their assets as much as possible while cruising to a playoff spot?? What of my Carmelo-Denver comparison? is that a 2k scenario?

Isaiah Thomas has 2 seasons left on his contract so they can easily wait til the offseason to accelerate their process, the onus on certainly on Utah to trade Hayward, not on Boston to trade for him, they can sign him without giving back any assets if they just wait it out.. Then trade those assets to bring in another heavy hitter alongside Hayward, Thomas and Horford to form a big 4..
 
PG_AB said:
They aren't all chosen, some are sold, one of the perks of premium membership is obviously being allowed to create multiple accounts so users can post extreme grade aaa garbage and not take flack for it on their 'real' accounts.
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Ha! Keep spinning whatever makes you feel better.
 
PG_AB said:
No one really responded to the OP under the guidelines outlined (Other than me), the thread is about a course of action for if Hayward walks, which was immediately derailed.

it's not worth reading.

Just predictable, near-sighted, deluded responses about the Jazz, people trying to reinforce their old points from other threads by suggesting unobtainable trades and also absurd leaps of faith about them winning a championship.
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Cuz ur thread is lame.

Let's assume this

Now assume this

Now assume this

Now assume this

Now assume this

Now assume this

Now research the salary cap situation in the hypothetical set of situations you presented, find out all the players who will be free agents at the seasons end, what teams have picks to get all the sure-fire superstars you are certain to support in the upcoming draft, etc.

Simply put, very few care that much to bother with your threads premise. I certainly don't. I'm guessing the main priority for most of the posters here is to watch and enjoy the upcoming Jazz season.
 
And I actually think getting Durant is more realistic than CP3. I really think CP3 is going to try and team up with Lebron, Melo, or Wade.

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King Cy said:
And I actually think getting Durant is more realistic than CP3. I really think CP3 is going to try and team up with Lebron, Melo, or Wade.

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It's just kinda weird that the OP is assuming Gordon Hayward walks, and then the future HOF Chris Paul is gonna come to Utah.

Anyway, I'm with you, I think Paul will team up with another superstar or two in a quest for a ring.
 
ghsartin said:
You are predicting a 14 to 17 game improvement from one season to another from a team that was already average. My memory might be failing me but, to tell you the truth, I don't recall anything like that happening over the last ten years, with any team. I hope you're right, though.
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The Dubs improved 16 games two seasons ago with pretty much nothing but organic growth and a coaching change.

We will have a ton of guys back from injury, should see organic growth ourselves, have added three other very solid free agents, and really can't be any worse in close games if the law of averages means anything.
 
PG_AB said:
Cunning Linguist is just whats called controlled opposition, and not to be taken seriously under any circumstances, he exists to speak of extreme scenarios to try to broaden the spectrum of responses on this forum, look at him undder that light and you'll see just how predictable and formulaic his responses are. An obvious agent of the mods or owners of this site to fluff up the responses/post counts, and nothing more, he's not the only one too, see Ncoloradojazz and there's several more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubIpoPjBUds
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Now please tell me again how great of a movie Tron Legacy was. ROFL. You're a straight clown.

Let's a make a little wager with all this stock market money you've churned out in between dating high class honies and splitting the atom. Say $1,000. I bet you the Jazz will win at least 49 games this year.
 
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