Lindsey Pushing For More Corner 3's

[//r00t 4 Jazz]

The Jazz prior 3pt philosophy has been address (the corner 3 lending itself to easy transition for other teams) and the other 3's being bad for offensive rebounds, I appreciate the stats showing that teams had actually rebounded the 3 ball at a higher rate and how the Spurs shape their offense to cover the transition D on the corner 3.

Now for my question, as we all know our own memories can betray us and so with that said I remember being frustrated that the Jazz seem to get a low percentage of long rebounds, whether it was offensive or defensive. So I wonder if any of you guys have looked up or maybe Locke has some stats to look, not at the NBA as a whole (that was posted earlier) but how just the Jazz rebounded the 3 ball and what the percentage was.

I ask this because like the corner 3 is an offensive structure/philosophy adjustment maybe the Jazz need to address the long rebound in the same way. Or maybe it is really just a hustle, heart, "want to" thing. Anyway has anybody else noticed or remembered the Jazz seemingly bad at rebounding the long rebound as I?

 

[♪alt13]

That only works to a point. Yes being mentored, watching and learning is good. But at some point you need to be given adequate time to use what you have learned in real time. Sitting, watching and learning is pointless when you do not get playing time. Kanter should have been averaging 25 mpg last year not 15.

Kanter will see 4 years of 25+min in the NBA before he is 25 years old. I can see Kanter potentially playing better basketball @ 35 than 25. I think his game relies less on athleticism(not saying he is not athletic) allowing him to continue to improve after his physical prime. Smart veteran basketball is I think the most fun to watch. I have all the patience in the world for Kanter.

 

[Stifle Tower]

The Jazz prior 3pt philosophy has been address (the corner 3 lending itself to easy transition for other teams) and the other 3's being bad for offensive rebounds, I appreciate the stats showing that teams had actually rebounded the 3 ball at a higher rate and how the Spurs shape their offense to cover the transition D on the corner 3.

Now for my question, as we all know our own memories can betray us and so with that said I remember being frustrated that the Jazz seem to get a low percentage of long rebounds, whether it was offensive or defensive. So I wonder if any of you guys have looked up or maybe Locke has some stats to look, not at the NBA as a whole (that was posted earlier) but how just the Jazz rebounded the 3 ball and what the percentage was.

I ask this because like the corner 3 is an offensive structure/philosophy adjustment maybe the Jazz need to address the long rebound in the same way. Or maybe it is really just a hustle, heart, "want to" thing. Anyway has anybody else noticed or remembered the Jazz seemingly bad at rebounding the long rebound as I?

Maybe it's a coaching thing. Just tell Kanter and Favors, "look, we're putting the corner 3 into our offense. If there's a miss, then most of the time the ball is going to come off on the opposite side of the rim down low. One of you be there!"

These are the types of things that I just don't see Corbin - or even Sloan - having and using the analytical tools to communicate to the players.

 

[Stoked]

You read way too much into things. I've been pointing out the relative strengths and weaknesses of each player, and the leaps in logic in using catchphrases like "space the floor" instead of real analysis of offensive mechanics. I haven't given an opinion on who should start. Don't know why you're so strung out making this a Burks vs Rush fight.



Korver is one of those special catch and shoot off the move guys. He didn't position himself in the corner like Rush would, rather move to spots as he reads and reacts to what the defense gives him. Most guys aren't able to do that and need more time to set their feet. That's why Sloan could run screen plays for Korver that are usually terrible shots for most guys not named Peja, Ray, Reggie, etc.

Here are some good examples. When Korver takes a corner three he has moved there in response to the defense. That's not what we have in mind with Rush camping out/thumb in *** in the corner to magically space the flo'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7YvbG9d7Zk

Hi Pot!

 

[Stoked]

Kanter will see 4 years of 25+min in the NBA before he is 25 years old. I can see Kanter potentially playing better basketball @ 35 than 25. I think his game relies less on athleticism(not saying he is not athletic) allowing him to continue to improve after his physical prime. Smart veteran basketball is I think the most fun to watch. I have all the patience in the world for Kanter.

Good. That has no bearing on the mishandling of his minutes so far.

 

[franklin]

Maybe it's a coaching thing. Just tell Kanter and Favors, "look, we're putting the corner 3 into our offense. If there's a miss, then most of the time the ball is going to come off on the opposite side of the rim down low. One of you be there!"

These are the types of things that I just don't see Corbin - or even Sloan - having and using the analytical tools to communicate to the players.

I make one post with shoddy analytics on the matter and now everyone can design plays better than stupid Sloan?

 

[Stifle Tower]

I make one post with shoddy analytics on the matter and now everyone can design plays better than stupid Sloan?

Maybe not plays. Rotations, yes. Jerry was old school. I doubt he used advanced statistics and analytics to help his coaching or personnel decisions. As for Corbin, I'm not sure what - if anything - he uses to aid his coaching.

 

[BTP]

You read way too much into things. I've been pointing out the relative strengths and weaknesses of each player, and the leaps in logic in using catchphrases like "space the floor" instead of real analysis of offensive mechanics. I haven't given an opinion on who should start. Don't know why you're so strung out making this a Burks vs Rush fight.



Korver is one of those special catch and shoot off the move guys. He didn't position himself in the corner like Rush would, rather move to spots as he reads and reacts to what the defense gives him. Most guys aren't able to do that and need more time to set their feet. That's why Sloan could run screen plays for Korver that are usually terrible shots for most guys not named Peja, Ray, Reggie, etc.

Here are some good examples. When Korver takes a corner three he has moved there in response to the defense. That's not what we have in mind with Rush camping out/thumb in *** in the corner to magically space the flo'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7YvbG9d7Zk

I've never paid much attention to Korver somehow...
But I've got a feeling he'll hit a lot of 3s next season with Teague and Schröder running the point in ATL.