Lockout!!!

[green]

Only in this country do people seem to think teams from 2nd and 3rd tier locales have some divine right to be competitive for championships. If there isn't parity in this league, thats not because the rules are unfair - its because the world is unfair. New York and LA are bigger and better than utah and milwaukee at every single thing in the world. Why should basketball be any different?

Would you expect the top opera singers in the country to live and work year round in charlotte and minnesota, just so that you could enforce parity in opera perfomances with megalopolis like new york?

Small market teams like indiana and sacremento should simply be thankful that they have a team and get to see great teams visit their town to perform. That they're trying to rig the system to dilute the product to the point that they can compete is bad for the quality of the game.

I can't believe I am responding to you, but let's say LA, NY, Chicago and Dallas decide they are going to run the league and keep small market teams around to develop talent. What happens as Utah, NO, Minnesota, etc lose money year after year? The teams go bankrupt and dissolve. That leaves a 4-5 team league, that 4-5 cities care about. That means that those large market teams will lose a lot of money. ESPN pays less for their games. TBS and TNT drop them completely. They become the USFL or MLS. Unlike Opera, whose audience is much, much smaller, the NBA NEEDS small market teams. They need schedule filler. They need 82 games. If small market teams disappear, the NBA disappears.

 

[TheItinerantSon]

all of european soccer does fine with this system...

 

[green]

all of european soccer does fine with this system...

Exactly why I can't believe I responded...Basketball is not equivalent to soccer. Nobody cares enough about basketball to carry 4-5 teams, and the players union would kill small market teams with jets, five star hotels, per diems, etc. The NBA would have to allow small market teams to sign a team full of Ronnie Price's at $150,000 a year, bus rides, small high school gyms, etc.

NBA basketball is more equivalent to European basketball if allowed to follow capitalism.

 

[carolinajazz]

.....who cares what anyone thinks.....the season is going to be deep-sixed and it deserves to be!

 

[Dr. Jones]

.....who cares what anyone thinks.....the season is going to be deep-sixed and it deserves to be!

uhhh .. you do. Otherwise you'd have, what, 1 post? .. and it would read like this;

Sign idea!! "I love Jazz tats!!1!"

 

[freakazoid]

Kobe Bryant: Voice of Reason

He's got to be ****ting bricks at the thought of losing the entire season. Those career numbers are very important to his legacy.

 

[Coloradojazzfan]

uhhh .. you do. Otherwise you'd have, what, 1 post? .. and it would read like this;

Sign idea!! "I love Jazz tats!!1!"

This.

 

[gregbroncs]

my understanding is that the nfl decertification was overturned because it was ruled to be fake...as in the players were still interested in negotiating.

My understanding is that the NBA players have a much better chance because they have proven through negotiation that the owners aren't offering any concessions.

I understood it that they could not prove undo hardship. The NBA players will have almost no cause to prove undo hardship. higher pay and better other options than the NFL. And the owners have made lots of consessions. All the players have really done is drop their pay. Owners dropped their hard and flex cap they also raised their pay during negotiations. So it seems to me that the players have not been negotiating in good faith anymore than the owners have.

Also the NBA has already filed to maintain their exemption from anti-trust laws even if the players decertify. Can somebody explain to me why the anti-trust exemption doesn't mandate profit sharing? Isn't the whole rationale of an anti-trust exemption that hte league is composed of teams who are not competing business entitities? At that point shouldn't that logic dictate that the teams split net profits evenly (ending this bizarre notion that the league is losing money just because some teams are located in inadequate markets)?

If teams were sharing money wouldn't that show they were working as one entity? Wouldn't that also make them more vulnerable to anti-trust suits? So because they have very little revenue sharing doesn't that show that they are in fact competing business entities? Are they not also competing with European teams for the services of players as well?

Only in this country do people seem to think teams from 2nd and 3rd tier locales have some divine right to be competitive for championships. If there isn't parity in this league, thats not because the rules are unfair - its because the world is unfair. New York and LA are bigger and better than utah and milwaukee at every single thing in the world. Why should basketball be any different?

Would you expect the top opera singers in the country to live and work year round in charlotte and minnesota, just so that you could enforce parity in opera perfomances with megalopolis like new york?

Small market teams like indiana and sacremento should simply be thankful that they have a team and get to see great teams visit their town to perform. That they're trying to rig the system to dilute the product to the point that they can compete is bad for the quality of the game.

The last part of this is just too stupid to deserve a reply.

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

He's got to be ****ting bricks at the thought of losing the entire season. Those career numbers are very important to his legacy.

Bro, he's nowhere near Wilt's record.

 

[BENTLEY]

I hope the players decertify.
Hard cap + get rid of guaranteed contracts + I'll be able to focus on NCAA ball.

 

[BENTLEY]

I'm a fan. I want parity. Why do I care about BRI?

 

[NUMBERICA]

I'm a fan. I want parity. Why do I care about BRI?

I disagree on the finer points of what that entails, but that's all I care about as well. Well, that and/or having basketball to distract myself with.