Do you agree/disagree with the UN's partitioning of Israel/Palestine in 1967?
I saw a documentary a while back and thought that was so unfair on the Palestine and I believe had led to all these problems they're having now.
I was in Israel for two weeks, part of a group invited by the Israeli Minister of Education. I sorta strayed from the flock a few times.
a couple of things..... the arabs living in the Israeli quarters helped the Israelis in the last two wars, volunteering to drive ambulances and supply trucks and such. They recognize they have a generally good government and would not willingly cross the border to be Palestinian. I've worked directly under both Palestinians and Jews here in the USA. I really do think the Palestinians are actually a Jewish remnant. But the cultural and religious influence of Islamic beliefs is so powerful, there will be no peace.
I agree the Palestinians should have a sovereign homeland, but the Israelis are doing so much better as a modern sort of government that does respect more basic human rights. As long as the rhetoric is about running the Israelis back into the sea, I am solid on the Israeli side.
Still, when I got out into the Palestinian areas and talked to people, my heart sorta went out to them, particularly the high school kids. The whole culture of men abusing boys sorta weirds me out, as does the blood hate that runs so strong in some. Bottom line, the Palestinians do not have the makings of a peaceful neighbor or humanitarian State, and won't have, until they shake lose of the propaganda/exploitation politically instigated by global power interests. Until then, there will be no peace, and it will take Jesus to break up that power elite.
The worst aspect of the whole situation comes from WWI where because certain banks sold out the Germans, a socialist---not just a fascist---Adolf Hitler concluded he couldn't trust having Jews in his homeland. He knew historically that Germany had been sold out, in favor of the Brits. But he was making his own deal with the Devil in inviting American industrialists like the Rockefellers and Fords, and even the British, to build production plants in Germany. Our CFR, Brit-linked, elites are the "progressives", the "socialists" that have run American into the ground in the last fifty years. The deal that was brokered by the British for the Israelis is as evil as evil ever has been. Yes, the "Jews" were given part of their homeland, but the Jewish leaders who made that deal included a number of communists who made a side-deal with the Soviet Union.
The side deal, still in force because of communist elements in Israeli government, was anti-American. Israel would openly seek American alliance, and would never conclude any peace with the Palestinians. Thus, the agreement guarantees perpetual war. The Soviets wanted this to undermine American foreign relations worldwide.
The Palestinians have also been infiltrated by Western interests seeking to foment war and unrest, and are largely being exploited for the sake of a perverse war of attrition designed to eliminate that population or reduce it to insignificance.
It is all unbelievable, but that's the way it is, and it will take, literally, a returning Jesus to make the Peace.
The Hundred Years War in Europe was significantly ended by Nicolas de Cusa, a Catholic priest who preached that the way to have peace is just to be peace. Peace for the sake of peace, let bygones be bygone. You have to love peace more than life sometimes to have peace.
It's like the way my wife and I argue. If I win, I lose. I walk away and when I come back, she's done everything the way I wanted, on her own terms, in her own way. I say thanks, wow, how smart you are. Well, honestly, more than half the time I come back and see what's she's done, and it really is her idea, and it really is better than what I thought. I say thanks, wow, how smart you are.
I sorta like to see what free self-reliant people can come up with, really.
oh, yah, I sorta rambled and redundantly analyzed the sitch, but I gotta go do some work. later.