Longest Thread Ever

[babe]

clear as mud

can't make pies with just water. Mud makes it all happen.

 

[babe]

So I bailed out of the ICU to come home to do some chores, get something to eat, and take a shower. Hang in here, folks.

Weekend schedule is, with people sitting in for me, I'm taking a load of boys to the ranch to do some serious spring work....... but I'll check in here for a few minutes when I can. . . .

 

[babe]

these are really weak posts, devoid of any real content

"real" is in the eye of the beholder. . . . if the point of this thread is essentially to be the longest thread ever, it comes close to being about numerical issues such as this.

A pretty smart physicist once said "We have dreamed the world". . . . .and he was right in at least the sense that our understanding of it is a dream, not a reality.

yes, the universe and the world may be hypothetically "out there", meaning outside our skulls. What it is, or is not, may be theoretically hypothesized to be existing independently from our thoughts or dreams, may be something that existed before it was "conceived" or imagined by man or any other entity. . . . even before "God" as some may suppose.

But our science and our present belief systems are our own dreams. . . . .

 

[PearlWatson]

I have a question for you, babe.
I was reading about the life of Helen Keller and I get that she was taught language through signing into her hands. I can understand her learning language for concrete objects or actions without sight or hearing, but how does she learn language for abstract and political concepts like freedom or justice?

 

[babe]

I have a question for you, babe.
I was reading about the life of Helen Keller and I get that she was taught language through signing into her hands. I can understand her learning language for concrete objects or actions without sight or hearing, but how does she learn language for abstract and political concepts like freedom or justice?

I can speak to this point from my own experience. Being blind does not incapacitate human intelligence in any way. To the contrary, it stimulates the brain centers involved in imagination and abstract reason. Having no objective observable visual world increases the information a blind person will "see" through physical contact and hearing. Being deaf as well as blind, I imagine, would free the brain centers processing inputs to make even more out of physical contacts. . . . such as interpreting the vibrations of the stage when people are cheering. . . .

Helen Keller was, more to the point, "worked on" by political activists who wished to exploit her as a public spokeswoman for "change". Maybe an example of shameful exploitation of someone who was uniquely vulnerable. It is entirely possible she had no idea about the extended implications of the vacuous platitudes she was taught to say.

How many people inundated with the whole spectrum of political rhetoric have the same notion of "freedom" or "justice"???? In a state-mediated climate of ideology "freedom" can mean anything from unshackled jackbooted police who can do anything they want to you. . . . .. through an infinite number of specific outrages a "majority" can impose on "minorities" of any description. Even in the example of the American Experiment, "Freedom" meant that the colonists were no longer restricted or restrained from settling "Indian" lands vouchsafed to the partners of the British fur traders. In fact, because the Indians sided with the British during the American Revolution, the Indians were effectively removed from the colonists' narrow list of persons entitled to their rights at all. American "Freedom" was not something the Indians won for themselves, they in fact fought against the idea, and thereby lost their rights to it. Even Lincoln was still huge on occupying Indian territory and pushing genocide against the redskins while issuing the Emancipation Proclamation for the blacks.

The term "Freedom" has generally been treated as a narrow argument for those invoking it as their ideal, while taking it from others. "Justice" has had the same use.

 

[babe]

Seeing as it's the 200th page of this thread (more or less), can someone give us a quick run down discussions and what the conclusions where?

Bullet points would suffice.

I like this opportunity. I bet I can quote this about one thousand times in order to properly rehash this whole thread. I could possibly just do a few cannon rounds about the major points. . . . . but I was asked for bullet points. And, well, I intend to go beyond the mile compelled and maybe do BB points. . . . .

 

[babe]

but, first of all, since this is the middle post of the current page, I'll need to bury this point first of all.

I have escaped, and am heading for the hills. As soon as my girls get home. All is well at the hospital, and we are on the mend, with good prospects for many years to come.

 

[babe]

Official Notice

I'm "Movin' on Up". . . ..

when I come back, Bronco, it will be your turn. I think it would be nice of you to do a little extra posting. . . . a duel of sorts. . . a battle of the bands. .. . er.. .. . posters. Make it a contest. Well, maybe you could do what PKM has done. . . . .. while I post 2000, he does 6000, even when I'm trying my best. . . .

Well, I guess my days of passing former greats who are no longer in the game have pretty well run out. Log is about the only one left.

and I guess I have to expect Franklin back in the leader race in a few months. . . . . any day, really. . . . . at least, I could hope.

 

[babe]

Seeing as it's the 200th page of this thread (more or less), can someone give us a quick run down discussions and what the conclusions where?

Bullet points would suffice.

The primary conclusion sought for in this discussion is . . . . . . drum roll. . . . . . the air and ambiance of a living room where people can just drop by and say hi, or talk about whatever is on their minds, among a not-necessarily small group of "friends". Open door thread. . . . Living Room Thread. . . . . but pointedly The Longest Thread.

 

[babe]

Seeing as it's the 200th page of this thread (more or less), can someone give us a quick run down discussions and what the conclusions where?

Bullet points would suffice.

Life is not about "conclusions" really. . . . more to the point it is about "continuity" that somehow embraces all the singular events that come along for no known reason.

This thread is open to any topic, and is a demonstration of the fact that the "topics of the day" do indeed fade into the background, or dissolve into the the stream, of on-going discussion and life itself.

 

[babe]

Seeing as it's the 200th page of this thread (more or less), can someone give us a quick run down discussions and what the conclusions where?

Bullet points would suffice.

Being a Jazz Fan is effectively a declaration of the supremacy of hope and faith over the overwhelming facts of life. . .. over every perfectly valid point of reason and in fact. . . . over reality itself.

The Cubs did pretty good with this. We can do it better.

 

[babe]

This thread is about absolutely nothing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQnaRtNMGMI

If you'll scratch a little deeper, the truth is. . . .

This thread is about Everything.

And about burying Everything in a perfect caricature of life. . . .. an overwhelming mass of "nothings".