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Looking ahead to 2025-2026

If we get the top pick in the draft, what should we plan on for next season? (Please read the OP)

  • Stand pat, see how things go, adjust at the trade deadline

    Votes: 27 46.6%

  • Sell Lauri/Vets to make sure we get a top pick in 2026

    Votes: 19 32.8%

  • Use assets to go get win now pieces

    Votes: 12 20.7%
  • Total voters
    58
SoberasHotRod said:
With AJ going to BYU and now this kind of reporting, it almost feels like Ainge and Smith are laser focused on that draft.
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The problem with this is, as many have pointed out many times, the odds that you can just get the guy you want are really really low. If we already get super lucky and get Flagg then I would doubt we would get lucky again and get AJ (I understand that isn't how odds work and what happens in one lottery has no bearing on another lottery, but still)
 
fishonjazz said:
The problem with this is, as many have pointed out many times, the odds that you can just get the guy you want are really really low. If we already get super lucky and get Flagg then I would doubt we would get lucky again and get AJ (I understand that isn't how odds work and what happens in one lottery has no bearing on another lottery, but still)
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Building a team seems like playing a card game. You get dealt your picks and get to choose from whatever players are available. Drafting a guy who turns into a superstar, like Kawhi, Giannis or Jokic, starts to seem like pure luck. The best strategy is just to get lots and lots of picks to improve your deal flow.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
This article is extremely relevant to this thread. I'm just not sure how much of this is based on intel from the front office or just her opinions:

www.deseret.com

State of the Utah Jazz’s rebuild: Just how long is this going to take?

How long until the Jazz start winning games? What happens next year?
www.deseret.com www.deseret.com
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I think that Keyonte is basically tracking to be like Tyler Herro. He can be your 4th or 5th starter, or he can come off your bench. His efficiency is fine if his role and usage are kept in line and he doesn't try to do too much.

His lack of defense is a concern though, just as it's been with Tyler Herro.
 
fishonjazz said:
The problem with this is, as many have pointed out many times, the odds that you can just get the guy you want are really really low. If we already get super lucky and get Flagg then I would doubt we would get lucky again and get AJ (I understand that isn't how odds work and what happens in one lottery has no bearing on another lottery, but still)
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The Jazz would have a 1.96% chance of getting the #1 pick two years in a row if they finish bottom-3 in both of those years.
 
Cleveland's path is interesting:
** 2017/18: Wins 50 games, drafted Collin Sexton #8 (from Brooklyn)
** 2018/19: Wins 19 games, drafts Darius Garland #5
** 2019/20: Wins 19 games (shortened season), drafts Issac Okoro #5
** 2020/21: Wins 22 games, drafts Evan Mobley #3
** 2021: Trades for Lauri Markkanen
** 2021/22: Wins 44 games, drafts Ochai Agbaji #14
** 2022: Trades Sexton, Markkanen, Agbaji and a bucket of draft picks for Donovan Mitchell, betting the farm that he'll extend with them.
** 2022/23: Wins 51 games, loses in the 1st round of the POs due to injuries
** 2023/24: Wins 48 games, loses in the 2nd round
** 2024: Gets Donovan Mitchell to extend for 2 years, plus a player option on a 3rd year
** 2024/25: Wins 60+ games to finish #1 in the Eastern Conference

A total of 8 years to reach true contention. Donovan is in his 8th year. Garland is in his 6th year. Mobley is in his 4th year.
 
NUMBERICA said:
The Jazz would have a 1.96% chance of getting the #1 pick two years in a row if they finish bottom-3 in both of those years.
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Exactly. If we get Flagg then mission accomplished and let's ****ing go!
 
SoberasHotRod said:
Tanking with Lauri was what I wanted, and so I can't complain, but I think it might feel different right now if we were actually this bad vs artificially this bad.
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The only real negative is that the tank has been partially successful because Lauri had a pretty bad year.

And while it has been nice for Collins to have a career year, it hasnt resulted in a positive gain for Utah (yet) because he still wasnt tradeable (at least for something Utah deemed positive value vs keeping Collins).
 
Having potentially 3 guys in the 2026 draft on Flagg's level makes tanking even more appealing because you have much better odds to get at least one of them. We'll see if they all live up to expectations like Flagg has, but thats part of the calculation here.

I know I keep posting contradictory stuff here, but that's because I don't think the answer to this is easy.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
The only real negative is that the tank has been partially successful because Lauri had a pretty bad year.

And while it has been nice for Collins to have a career year, it hasnt resulted in a positive gain for Utah (yet) because he still wasnt tradeable (at least for something Utah deemed positive value vs keeping Collins).
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From an unemotional standpoint the tank has been an amazing success so far. It has exceeded my expectations.
 
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