Looking for genuine discourse re: Donald Sterling/NBA

[AlaskanAssassin]

What other possible motivation could you have except superiority?

There are certainly more reasons people "stick to their own" outside of superiority.

1- Fear of another race or ethnicity. (This may stem from childhood trauma or witnessing family prejudices or injustices)

2- Fear of judgement from your own race or ethnicity, especially family (watch "American History X" for an example here)

3- Fear of the unknown (i.e. I've only ever spent time with my own kind, I don't know what these other people are like.)

None of these examples showcase feelings of superiority. Rather they are examples of fear and misunderstanding. I would imagine that these examples of "sticking to your own" are much more common than examples of feeling that another race is truly inferior.

 

[JimLes]

None of these examples showcase feelings of superiority. Rather they are examples of fear and misunderstanding. I would imagine that these examples of "sticking to your own" are much more common than examples of feeling that another race is truly inferior.

Only the middle one is an example of it not being the feeling of superiority, and based on admittedly nothing more than conjecture, I would think it covers very few cases. The other two clearly boil down to superiority/inferiority issues. Yeah, I knew kids(went to a Jewish middle school) whose grandparents refused to buy any German products. Never mind the fact that in a globalized world, something like this is actually impossible(where does something come from often has more than one answer), but it's prejudice. Sure, I feel some sympathy because we're dealing with Holocaust survivors, but assuming that the modern German state and today's German's are evil is racism.

Same goes for number 3. Assuming that Polish people are inherently good and non-Polish people might not be is racism. Whatever the details are, you're judging someone based on (possibly automatic and not chosen) membership in a certain group instead of their character qualities.

 

[DutchJazzer]

I hope they take the team away from him.
so that proves freedom of speech(in private) is dead.

 

[PearlWatson]

There are certainly more reasons people "stick to their own" outside of superiority.

1- Fear of another race or ethnicity. (This may stem from childhood trauma or witnessing family prejudices or injustices)

2- Fear of judgement from your own race or ethnicity, especially family (watch "American History X" for an example here)

3- Fear of the unknown (i.e. I've only ever spent time with my own kind, I don't know what these other people are like.)

None of these examples showcase feelings of superiority. Rather they are examples of fear and misunderstanding. I would imagine that these examples of "sticking to your own" are much more common than examples of feeling that another race is truly inferior.

You forgot the obvious. Pride and/or vanity. Wanting your kids to look as much like you as possible, and it is much easier to merge similar cultural backgrounds.

 

[DutchJazzer]

Also,

is this on a video or just a audio tape?


cus she could easily entrap him.

by saying he donald, i need to pratice for this movie/play.
would you help me read this script.
he says okay. lets have it.
and she records it and does that.

hahahaha

 

[AlaskanAssassin]

Only the middle one is an example of it not being the feeling of superiority, and based on admittedly nothing more than conjecture, I would think it covers very few cases. The other two clearly boil down to superiority/inferiority issues. Yeah, I knew kids(went to a Jewish middle school) whose grandparents refused to buy any German products. Never mind the fact that in a globalized world, something like this is actually impossible(where does something come from often has more than one answer), but it's prejudice. Sure, I feel some sympathy because we're dealing with Holocaust survivors, but assuming that the modern German state and today's German's are evil is racism.

Same goes for number 3. Assuming that Polish people are inherently good and non-Polish people might not be is racism. Whatever the details are, you're judging someone based on (possibly automatic and not chosen) membership in a certain group instead of their character qualities.

1-I think you're stretching here. A fear of another race does not mean that you feel that race is inferior. I would imagine that the opposite is true more often. An example here is unnecessary.

2-This is one that I think might best apply to Mr. Sterling. He's afraid of what others think of him.

3- If it is truly a fear of the unknown, how can you have feelings of inferiority or superiority? It's the fear of not knowing. If I told you that you would be playing someone in a game of Chess, and you knew nothing about this person, it would be difficult to generate a feeling of superiority or inferiority. Your confidence and feelings would only be a reflection of how you feel about YOURSELF, not how you feel about your opponent.

 

[DutchJazzer]

Barrack "OBEEZY" Hussein Obama said:

When ignorant folks want to advertise their ignorance, you don’t really have to do anything, you just let them talk

now he said advertise
donald did not advertise.
seem like obeezy is now ignorant.

omg what a ignorant president you guys have.

not even defending the freedom of speech.

ooh wait if he has his way he'll burn the constitution

 

[Deleted member 848]

1-I think you're stretching here. A fear of another race does not mean that you feel that race is inferior. I would imagine that the opposite is true more often. An example here is unnecessary.

2-This is one that I think might best apply to Mr. Sterling. He's afraid of what others think of him.

3- If it is truly a fear of the unknown, how can you have feelings of inferiority or superiority? It's the fear of not knowing. If I told you that you would be playing someone in a game of Chess, and you knew nothing about this person, it would be difficult to generate a feeling of superiority or inferiority. Your confidence and feelings would only be a reflection of how you feel about YOURSELF, not how you feel about your opponent.

I think the problem here is that you've adopted a pretty narrow, one-dimensional definition of racism.

Racism is not all one and the same-- it comes it different forms, has different ways of it being justified, and it's even dealt with on a spectrum of permissiveness from strict prohibition to it being perfectly legal and or institutionalized. From what I can tell, you seem to only perceive something is racist when it has complete irrationality in contemporary society-- but racism comes in many forms.

Sure, it seems logical to tell your son to not marry an Arab, as you fear what that culture might be about-- or you have a fear that your own son's cultural allegiance might be diluted.

Still, this is typically rooted in nationalism, vanity, and stereotypes-- all of which can be found in the spectrum of racism.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Moral of the Story: Don't trust dem gold diggin' hoes.

 

[fishonjazz]

"Obeezy"

I like it

 

[HighlandHomie]

Nobody is genuinely looking for "Discourse", for sure..

I stated it like that hoping to avoid the people who just wanted to respond by saying tl;dr.

 

[franklin]

At the time, I said Chris Paul was an idoit for signing a new contract under this racist. All this reaction by Magic, LBJ, Kobe, Doc, LMA's black sock gang ... they're a bunch of tough guys right now with the media behind their back. Where the hell were they when Blake needed a contract? Or CP3? Magic Johnson didn't say a damned thing back then. "It's a damn shame" that Kobe didn't nut up and say something when Donald Sterling could have actually been hurt by his racism.